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post #1 of 5 (permalink) Old 03-09-2004, 03:56 PM Thread Starter
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Learned to play (somewhat) = major GAS attack.

I've gone 2 years now with cheapo, easy to use gear. Ibanez SA guitar, Peavy Rage 15 watt, Line6 DM4. Great for beginning the guitar, but I've never liked the tone, and although I could probably tweak it better, it'll never get as good as I want.

So I'm finally going to go out and get some real gear. Intermediate to experienced level stuff. I decided to browse through user forums (like here) and I see tons of info.

Right now I really need a new amp, my rage is a good practice amp, but I'm beginning to get a tone sensitive ear. One of my favorite tones of all time is the Dream Theater SFAM album, any suggestions for even remotely emulating this would be appreciated.
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Well, for SFAM John Petrucci used Mesa Boogies and I believe his EB/MM signiture model guitars. He also uses a whole bunch of rack effects. To emulate his tone would cost a fortune, but i'm sure you could do it well for relatively little money.

Try looking at what second hand Mesas you can get, and also at the EB/MM JPM. If you can't afford that then OLP announced a JPM copy recently. I don't know if its out yet though.
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post #4 of 5 (permalink) Old 03-09-2004, 07:59 PM
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most of the mesas i've played can't get the petrucci tone it seems without a bunch of a effects. the dual rect in my opinion sucks big time.. I would say it has to be one of the muddiest/grittiest/disgusting amps i've ever heard.. i'm still a big fan of mesa.. I'm looking to buy a mark IV in the near future. Very Clear Warm Tone. but probably out of your budget. If that is you style. I would try geting some mid level ibanez.. maybe one of the new prestiges. rg1570, etc. never played one. but i bet they are decent playing instruments. Amps.... your choice man, everyone has what they like. it just depends on your budget.. what i have found though is running a good delay through the effects loop really adds to the sound. knowing your budget would help us come up with some ideas for you though.
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I can't say for 100% certian, but I'd imagine SFAM was Rectos layered against a Mark IIC+; that was his awake rhythm tone, and they're reasonably similar. A Mark-IV might be a good way to go, for his lead tones, but it won't qwuite cut it for rhythm.

A good compromise might be a Mesa Nomad. I rememebr someone posted Nomad 45 clips around here once (track7, maybe) of the "pull me udner" riff, and double-tracked had the tone absolutely NAILED. You wouldn't get quite as smooth a lead tone as a Mark, but it'd be a lot closer to both his rhythm and his lead sound than a mark-iv or a rectifier would be.

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