Mesa/Boogie 2:90 VS 20/20 - Jemsite
Gear, Equipment, Recording & Off Topic Gear, Equipment, and Recording discussed here. Amps, pedals, whatever.

 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
post #1 of 15 (permalink) Old 01-09-2004, 11:44 AM Thread Starter
 
Join Date: May 2003
Posts: 358
Mesa/Boogie 2:90 VS 20/20

I'm thinking about these two amps, not sure which one to get, I can't try them out where I live so its a problem for me.
First of all, how loud are these amps when compared, my biggest concern over the 2:90 is it been too loud, will it be too loud if I use it at home, most of all will I be able to even get good tones from it by turning it down. I heard the 20/20 is under rated for its loudness, will the 2:90 be any lounder?
Secondly, how does the 2 amps sound? Do they sound differently? Oh do they sound alike? I will be using the amps mostly for heavier stuff. If I can produce alike tones with the 20/20 I'd rather get that, firstly its cheaper(shipping), its lighter to carry around and its more usable at home.
I will be using a POD pro as a preamp, but planing to purchuse the triaxis in the future.
Please give me some feedbacks on what you think, I'd like to hear different opinions.
Thankyou !!!
jpwannabe is offline  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
post #2 of 15 (permalink) Old 01-09-2004, 12:32 PM
 
Join Date: Dec 2000
Location: Chicagoland, IL.
Posts: 4,355
Reviews: 1
I had the 2/95 and was looking to get the 2:90 just to shrink the overall size of my rig, but never had the cash or the need, so I opted for the 20/20. The 20/20 is a very loud power amp in a bedroom, if you're pushing it above 50% drive, your ears will be ringing. The 2/95 was obscenely loud and I rarely had it over 4 at show levels.

The main things are the 20/20 has EL84s in the output section which I like the sound of, you can push them hard faster to get that output tube drive at a lower overall volume. The 2:90 has some cool features such as the simulclass, modern, and deep modes for bass response and overall stiffening of the power supply to keep up with the demands placed upon it.

If you play large venues, you'll benefit from the 2:90, but if you're just playing bedroom and small clubs, the 20/20 will suit you just fine. there is also the 50/50 which is pretty nice as well. One bonus of the 20 is the space needed, single rack and not too heavy, plus retubing is WAY cheap compared to a 2:90 4x EL84's cost less in a matched set than 8x 6l6's.

Demo 'em and see what suits you.
You can find the 20:20 for under 400 used on eBay or http://www.Harmony-central.com

Let us know what you get and how you like it.

Bamm
bammbamm is offline  
post #3 of 15 (permalink) Old 01-09-2004, 01:13 PM
 
Join Date: Dec 2000
Location: DFW, Texas
Posts: 1,568
Bamm nailed it for you on this one..just let me say that I'm another fan of EL84s!
Greg
gkelm is offline  
post #4 of 15 (permalink) Old 01-09-2004, 02:45 PM
 
Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: Va Beach, VA
Posts: 1,416
My old rack rig consisted of a POD Pro into the mesa 20/20...it is plenty loud, well built and good bang for the buck when it comes to tube power amps. Good resale value as well if you ever need to go up in wattage. I'm a fan of lower wattage tube equipment, tubes sound better when pushed...It's hard to push high wattage stuff without your ears bleeding. With the 20/20 you'll find the sweet spot at much more tolerable volume levels....but it still packs some serious punch. Probably the most conservatively rated piece of gear I've heard, from an output perspective.
Gresh is offline  
post #5 of 15 (permalink) Old 01-09-2004, 02:58 PM Thread Starter
 
Join Date: May 2003
Posts: 358
Well,
There are ways to make the 2:90 not as loud,
mods are done so it can be mono.
Also I heard using the line output make the volume go down as well!
jpwannabe is offline  
post #6 of 15 (permalink) Old 01-09-2004, 03:11 PM
 
Join Date: Dec 2000
Location: Ottawa, ON
Posts: 739
Another big 20/20 fan here... I've had a few other power amps at higher wattage ratings that sounded okay, but this little box is the ultimate club-rack power amp, imho... It sounds killer, is plenty loud for most rooms, and the direct out is great for adding a touch of your guitar sound through the PA mix, too...
Jimi D is offline  
post #7 of 15 (permalink) Old 01-18-2004, 06:01 PM
 
Join Date: Jun 2001
Posts: 189
Both are great power amps. The 20/20 has a softer tone than the 2:90 a little more mid and marshall like. The big questions what kind of stuff are you thinking of playing. Now with the right pre both amps can do this fine but the 2:90 is better for a clean tight aggressive distortion sound But I like the 20/20 more for a warm and round lead tone. Both are very loud. The 20/20 is way cheaper to retube. Now I think the 2:90 proforms a fair bit better with the triaxis. And on a final note starting in next month boogie will be raising the price on both amps. The 20/20 by like a $100 and the 2:90 by about $50.
winterlong is offline  
post #8 of 15 (permalink) Old 01-18-2004, 06:05 PM
 
Join Date: Jun 2001
Posts: 189
Man am I dumb. JPwannabe = Dream theater. Duh
Triaxis+2:90 way better dream theater tone but may take months to find.
20/20 not as easy.
winterlong is offline  
post #9 of 15 (permalink) Old 01-18-2004, 08:05 PM
 
Join Date: Jul 2002
Posts: 132
someone mentioned the 50/50, that might give you best of both worlds in terms of power/volume...it has a low power mode that runs at 15w per side...or 50w per side in high power mode. i've been very happy with mine. i've never run comparisons with other power amps so i can't speak to how it stands up to the others, but i think mine sounds great...i may try some other tubes in it, i've heard really good things about running it with jj/tesla's...

my current setup with the 50/50 is...parker fly classic>>>ernie ball volume>>>budda wah>>>hughes and kettner access preamp>>>g-major>>>50/50>>>mesa traditional 4x12 slant, rack controlled by ground control pro
somata is offline  
post #10 of 15 (permalink) Old 01-23-2004, 10:51 AM
 
Join Date: Mar 2003
Posts: 26
Hello 20/20 users..one question
The 20/20 can run mono in a 40 watts? Thanks
felipennn is offline  
post #11 of 15 (permalink) Old 01-23-2004, 03:15 PM
 
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: Wetzlar, Germany
Posts: 192
Quote:
Originally Posted by felipennn
Hello 20/20 users..one question
The 20/20 can run mono in a 40 watts? Thanks
I think only few Stereo-Tube-Poweramps allow bridging. The Marshall sure does not.
LennyNero is offline  
post #12 of 15 (permalink) Old 01-23-2004, 03:34 PM
 
Join Date: Mar 2003
Posts: 26
Iīm sure that the Marshall 20/20 can run in to 40watts mono, but i donīt know if the mesa 20/20 can do that.
felipennn is offline  
post #13 of 15 (permalink) Old 01-27-2004, 01:49 PM Thread Starter
 
Join Date: May 2003
Posts: 358
does the lo power option on the 50/50 really lower the volume alot?
jpwannabe is offline  
post #14 of 15 (permalink) Old 01-27-2004, 04:36 PM
 
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: Wetzlar, Germany
Posts: 192
Quote:
Originally Posted by felipennn
Iīm sure that the Marshall 20/20 can run in to 40watts mono, but i donīt know if the mesa 20/20 can do that.
I am playing my Marshall 20/20 since 4 years now, and it does not offer bridging... no way... you can 'bridge' the input, but you have to connect two cabs.
LennyNero is offline  
post #15 of 15 (permalink) Old 01-28-2004, 08:58 PM
 
Join Date: Jan 2004
Posts: 135
yea

that pretty much goes for all of the ones mentioned. People hear 180 watts and htink it's going to be sooo loud it's stereo not realizing it's 90 watt a side which is 10 less then a regular stack. Plus it's not like you run these things full throttle. I can't say i've really seen Pro shows where they've had a 290 cranked the whole way. You crank the preamp and turn it on 3 and it's going to rip your face off.
BCShredder is offline  
Reply

Tags
bass response , ernie ball , parker fly , parker fly classic , pod pro , power amp , power amps , rack power amp , tube power amp

Quick Reply
Message:
Options

Register Now



In order to be able to post messages on the Jemsite forums, you must first register.
Please enter your desired user name, your email address and other required details in the form below.

User Name:
Password
Please enter a password for your user account. Note that passwords are case-sensitive.

Password:


Confirm Password:
Email Address

IMPORTANT: You will be required to activate your account so please ensure that your email address is correct.

If you do not receive your activation check your spam folder before using the CONTACT US form (at the bottom right of each page).



Email Address:
OR

Log-in











Thread Tools
Show Printable Version Show Printable Version
Email this Page Email this Page
Display Modes
Linear Mode Linear Mode



Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Mesa Boogie 3 channel Triple Rectifier head and Mesa Boogie 2:90 Power Amp Sevenstringer Classified Ads: Guitars and Gear 3 12-03-2010 09:40 AM
FS: Mesa Boogie Triple Rectifier and Mesa Cab - MINT! Dr.StrangeNote Classified Ads: Guitars and Gear 4 09-26-2010 10:24 AM
Mesa Boogie Solo Rectifier with 4x12 Mesa Cab CHEAP! JEMDUDE70 Classified Ads: Guitars and Gear 0 08-20-2010 03:21 PM
Mesa Boogie DC 5 TRIDS Gear, Equipment, Recording & Off Topic 1 08-04-2008 03:01 PM
WTB: Mesa Boogie Mark III / IV / II C+/ road king or (triaxis+mesa 2:90 ) metallicaband Classified Ads: Guitars and Gear 4 12-26-2005 03:25 PM

Posting Rules  
You may post new threads
You may post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On

 
For the best viewing experience please update your browser to Google Chrome