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post #1 of 34 (permalink) Old 09-14-2007, 11:12 AM Thread Starter
 
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Mesa/Boogie Mark IV vs. Dual Rectifier.

Hi,

I am interested in both of these amps. And i know they both sound great but i want to know the differences and similarities about them. I am very interested in the Mark IV. My moms friend has a 1x12 combo and i might be able to get him to sell it to me. Are there distortion channels similar. Are there cleans similar?

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post #2 of 34 (permalink) Old 09-14-2007, 11:54 AM
 
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Re: Mesa/Boogie Mark IV vs. Dual Rectifier.

to the nitty gritty... the Mark's Simul-class feature is what makes the amp "louder" than its stated rating. I can't speak on behalf of the Mark users but I can vouch for the 2:90's as this power amp does not have to be cranked past 12'o clock to make the amp "sound" loud... plus you can cut down the power by running the Mark's in Class A (half-drive). The Rectifiers as you know have the large rectifier tubes; I've had a Dual at one point but I didn't like the tone I was getting... the cleans are not all that compared to the ones in a Mark. However, a Mark can get really heavy when you tune it right, but it will never come close to that "Rectifier hi-gain" Dual Recs are known for.
The Mark's are as versatile as it gets... ya have the combos, heads, and when you decide to go rack, you can always pull out the head from its original chassis then install it on a rackmount kit. The rectifiers... not so... you have loud, louder, and loudest in a head format... rackmount dual rectifiers are said to be better than the heads but hard to come across (especially one for a decent price)...
either way, that Mark IV should be a good deal if you're getting it from someone ya already know

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Re: Mesa/Boogie Mark IV vs. Dual Rectifier.

alright and i havent ever played a rectifier, i have played the mark IV. well thanks alot.
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Re: Mesa/Boogie Mark IV vs. Dual Rectifier.

Mark IV hand's down, especially if you can possibly get it used from a friend and local. All big +'s, I'd say try your hardest to get that guy to sell his Mark IV.
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Re: Mesa/Boogie Mark IV vs. Dual Rectifier.

Depends on what you are looking for, but I would definitely get the mark iv. I just couldn't dig the recto voicing, and it sounded and felt very mushy compared to the focus and clarity of the mark iv
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Re: Mesa/Boogie Mark IV vs. Dual Rectifier.

the kind of music i mostly play has the distortion tone of Alice in Chains and the Jerry Cantrell stuff. I know jerry used dual recs. but he also used bogners too.
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Re: Mesa/Boogie Mark IV vs. Dual Rectifier.

Any looseness\flabbiness of the Rectifiers can be tightened up with new tubes. I went to Eurotubes and put their version of EL34's for power tubes and GZ34's for rectifier tubes into my 3 channel triple rectifier (supposedly the worst sounding rectifier), and that amp ROARS and is tight without being too stiff. Just right.
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Re: Mesa/Boogie Mark IV vs. Dual Rectifier.

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Any looseness\flabbiness of the Rectifiers can be tightened up with new tubes. I went to Eurotubes and put their version of EL34's for power tubes and GZ34's for rectifier tubes into my 3 channel triple rectifier (supposedly the worst sounding rectifier), and that amp ROARS and is tight without being too stiff. Just right.
I would also suggest going with a Vader cab instead of Mesa cab, and switching to the solid state rectifier.
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Re: Mesa/Boogie Mark IV vs. Dual Rectifier.

Mark IV hands down. Rectifiers are not the way to go.
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the kind of music i mostly play has the distortion tone of Alice in Chains and the Jerry Cantrell stuff. I know jerry used dual recs. but he also used bogners too.
In that case I think a rectifier might be a better choice
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the kind of music i mostly play has the distortion tone of Alice in Chains and the Jerry Cantrell stuff. I know jerry used dual recs. but he also used bogners too.
NICE!

Anyways, the only time Jerry ever used his prototype Dual Rectifier is when Dirt was recorded, the rest of the time he's been using Shiva's, Ecstasy's, and 5150's.

On top of that, his Fish contributes a lot to his tone as well, but good luck finding one of those babies.

I'd try to get my hands on a Bogner if I was you. I'd take a Bogner any day of the week.
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Re: Mesa/Boogie Mark IV vs. Dual Rectifier.

since we're on Cantrell... I found this in one of my magazines circa 94... I don't see any rectifiers but 2 Bogners

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Re: Mesa/Boogie Mark IV vs. Dual Rectifier.

You can't really go wrong with either IMO. However, the better Rectifier is the older 2 channel black one:



I tend to prefer the Mark IV, but they both have their purposes. I still like my Mark III better than both of them.
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Re: Mesa/Boogie Mark IV vs. Dual Rectifier.

I don't think you can beat a recto for that full on metal chug. The lead sounds are a little more boxy and spongy than the very liquidy Mark IV though.

You can get great rhythm tones from the Mark IV too, very tight and clear. The only problem comes in getting as a good lead and rhythm tone at the same time (as they both tend to come from the Lead channel). One way is to set up a shared EQ on the lead channel, and use the amp EQ for the rhythm tone, and an external EQ for the lead tone.
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Re: Mesa/Boogie Mark IV vs. Dual Rectifier.

Andy: Two 2:90's?! wow... that must be one loud rig... are ya using the Recto's slave into the 2:90?

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