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post #1 of 11 (permalink) Old 02-18-2004, 11:53 AM Thread Starter
 
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Mesa/Boogie Stiletto on site...

Well, the Stiletto finally made it on to the main Mesa web page- surfed over during a break in work and saw it staring back at me. So, gotta ask... has anyone gotten a chance to play one of these yet? I'm assuming that means it's in stores. Any thoughts/impressions? I'm not a massive fan of the typical EL sound, but I'm curious to see what mesa's done with it... A less overpoweringly bass-heavy recto sounds interesting.

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After seeing Andy Timmons do a couple of demos at NAMM, I got a chance to spend 10 minutes or so on the Stiletto Deuce head through a 4x12" cab. NAMM is far from the ideal setting to get an accurate impression of an amp, but from what I was able to tell, the Stiletto is definitely a nice addition to Mesa's lineup. It wasn't nearly as muddy and sterile as Recto heads usually seem to be. It was much more lively- it just "breathed" better. If I was in the market for a new Boogie, I'd probably consider picking up a Stiletto. Of course, having Mr. Timmons do 3 demos a day made the thing sound REALLY good!
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I guess it's a matter of preference. I don't find Rectos to be "muddy" or "sterile". I would describe it as "warm" and "crisp". To-may-to to-mah-to.

So the Stiletto is basically Mesa's approach to making a more "British" sounding amp? In their newsletter, they suggested that in two-guitar bands, the Stiletto tone and Recto tone complimented each other and let both guitars occupy their own space in the mix. Makes sense. But it's probably also a lot of marketing BS.
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You've pretty much got it right- the Stiletto is definitely very much British in nature. Moreso than the Rectos are. I've simply never been fond of the Rectifier sound at all, so it's definitely a matter of "taste".
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It wasn't nearly as muddy and sterile as Recto heads usually seem to be...
Kind of a contradiction isn't it?
I would think it would be one or the other, not both.
Who's heard of sterile mud?

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Every Recto I've ever heard or played through has been both muddy AND sterile. Indistinct, flat, "blah" sounding with no personality. Muddy and sterile. Of course, that's only regarding the couple of dozen or so Dual & Triple rec amps that I've personally played.

Strictly my opinion though. I'm more used to Matchless, which is about as far from a Recto as possible
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The Boogie Rep was at my local GC the other day and said that the Lone Stars are about six weeks out, but the Stilletto proabably won't show up until May. Just FYI....
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The Boogie Rep was at my local GC the other day and said that the Lone Stars are about six weeks out, but the Stilletto proabably won't show up until May. Just FYI....
We've had a couple Mesa Lone Stars in the shops around here for a few weeks now... go figure
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Every Recto I've ever heard or played through has been both muddy AND sterile. Indistinct, flat, "blah" sounding with no personality. Muddy and sterile. Of course, that's only regarding the couple of dozen or so Dual & Triple rec amps that I've personally played.
Ditto, I've been hugely unimpressed by the rectos I've played in stores, but listening to them on stage with bands like Metallica and Sepultura, they make a lot more sense. They're very much a 'band' kind of amp rather than one that sounds great when you're noodling by youself.
I should like to check out the Stilletto but Mesa Boogies are just too far out of my price range (and if I had that money to spend on an amp, I'd get a Hughes & Kettner Triamp).
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The Boogie Rep was at my local GC the other day and said that the Lone Stars are about six weeks out, but the Stilletto proabably won't show up until May. Just FYI....
We've had a couple Mesa Lone Stars in the shops around here for a few weeks now... go figure
Yeah, now that I think about it, I'm sure that he just meant this area - I've heard that other people have played them already. I'm a little jealous - I'd love to try them......
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Ditto, I've been hugely unimpressed by the rectos I've played in stores, but listening to them on stage with bands like Metallica and Sepultura, they make a lot more sense. They're very much a 'band' kind of amp rather than one that sounds great when you're noodling by youself.
See, due to their herculean bass output, i've always felt the exact opposite about the recifiers- that marshalls sound weak and thin alone but much better with a band, where they compliment the other instruments nicely. The rectos sound huge on their own. I have yet to play one with a band- I'm seriously considering dropping my TSL for one, so if i do, i'll let you know.

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