Originally Posted by losgatosrg350dx
a rectifier amp actually doesnt hit harder and has nothing to do with boasting the sound
well built amps with ss rectifiers perform three times better and hit much harder, just requires a little more tuning and maybe a partial rack setup
inherently a rectified tube amp, utilizes the rec stages to "process" the current to be more effectively used in all the preamp and power stages.
the only draw back is that a recifier tube SLAGGS the current draw, wich is why rec. amps are often related to the most commonly desired "violin like sustain" effect that it produces
ive said it before and ill say it again, rec amps are way overrated, and the mesa's ive tried and heard, were nothing like a well built regular tube amp
for sustain purposes and more of a chording tone shape it is pretty much up there with the best amps made, but rec. amps have a way less responce time between fast notes...and they blend in too much
and for palm muting, shesh dont get me started i personaly hate the sound the mesa rec. amps have under palm muting teq.
I don't even know where to begin.
"Perform three times better" is a subjective statement. Perform three times more efficiently
? Quite possibly, but I don't know the actual statistics. But still, any
solid state amp will be "more efficient" than a vacuum tube, by its very nature. so why does everyone use tube amps? Because it's the very inefficiencies in transient response that give tube amps their warmth and musicality. I'm not saying all solid state amps are cold and unmusical (I happen to love every single Tech-21 product I've ever played), but that a good solid state amp is one that can reproduce the inefficiencies in transient response that give tube amps the warmth and smoothness that people value them for.
Now, reading your post, you seem to be arguing that Dual Rectifiers suffer from the very issues that make solid state rectification preferable to tube rectification, correct? "Less response time for fast notes," "they blend too much," right? So, let me counter, you're aware what their name means, right?
The thing is, ALL amps use some kind of rectification. Early guitar amps used tube rectifiers because there was nothing else. Over time, solid state rectifiers took their place for a little more headroom and faster response, translating into a "punchier" sounding amp. The Dual Rectifiers are named not for their two channels when they were debuted, but because they offer switchable rectification, as they give you the option to switch between faster-tracking, punchier, cleaner sounding tube rectification, and smoother, "sag"-ier, chewier tube rectification. In the latest incarnation of the basic poweramp design at the heart of a Rectifier (the Road King, the Roadster, and now the Stilletos even though they're technically a seperate line), you can even assign rectification by channel, so you can have a punchy, clear rhythm tone, and a more liquid, chewy lead tone from the same amp, on the fly.
I assume that's what you mean by "the mesas I've heard and tried were nothing like a well built tube amp for sustain purposes," right?
And a DR Channel 3 on modern will sound like absolute crap at guitar center friendly volumes with the typical GC kiddie "bass, treble, and gain on ten, mids on zero" sound. Trust me, I hated them for years until I finally got the hang of dialing them in. I impulse-bought one that same day.