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post #1 of 11 (permalink) Old 07-08-2006, 07:20 AM Thread Starter
 
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Need help finding a tone.

Hopefully someone can help here... I've been experimenting with various guitar sounds recently, and I had a brainwave last night whilst sitting listening to the Top Gun soundtrack last night. The guitar tones are very 1980's, but they sound so cool!

The trouble is, I've been experimenting with various sounds, but I can't get the sound I'm looking for. I'm using my RG2550 and a Marshall AVT50 combo. I'm using no effects at all, except for an Arion 7-band Graphic EQ. I'm trying to get that "Top Gun" tone... if you've got the Top Gun soundtrack, listen to "Danger Zone" by Kenny Loggins, "Through The Fire" by Larry Greene and the Top Gun Theme by Steve Stevens. That's the sort of tone I'm looking for. Can anyone suggest amp settings, EQ settings etc? I think I can hear a bit of chorus in the songs too but I'm not sure.

Your help is much appreciated here.

Thanks,

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post #2 of 11 (permalink) Old 07-08-2006, 04:33 PM
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Re: Need help finding a tone.

Almost sounds like a Rockman, IMO.


Its got a very middy sound. Very solidstate. Some Solidstate rack setup with alot of reverb would get you pretty close. Definately some digital chorus.

If you have an EQ, I would try peaking some of the mid frequencies, for a start.
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post #3 of 11 (permalink) Old 07-08-2006, 09:18 PM
 
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Re: Need help finding a tone.

lol, try an ART SGX-2000. Absolute crap and it'll give you that tone you're looking for. lol
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post #4 of 11 (permalink) Old 07-09-2006, 01:08 PM Thread Starter
 
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Re: Need help finding a tone.

Thanks for the suggestions, Gex. Yes it does sound very middly... I was also thinking about what you said about there being a hint of Digital Chorus. Could it also possibly be harmonizer?

This may sound a bit of a "noob" question, so apologies... but what's the difference between Analogue and Digital chorus, sound-wise? Sorry, I'm very ignorant about effects!

Also, is there such a thing as a harmoniser pedal? All the Harmonizers I have come across seem to be rackmount. And if there is, what price would I be looking at in the UK?

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post #5 of 11 (permalink) Old 07-09-2006, 02:36 PM
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Re: Need help finding a tone.

BOSS (Roland) make a couple of pedals that do harmonisation. The PS-5 Super Shifter is one of them. There's one on e-Bay UK for £95 Buy It Now or make a best offer. There's also the Digitech Whammy that does a nice hamonising / chorus effect. I'd go for one of the BOSS pedals.

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Re: Need help finding a tone.

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Thanks for the suggestions, Gex. Yes it does sound very middly... I was also thinking about what you said about there being a hint of Digital Chorus. Could it also possibly be harmonizer?

This may sound a bit of a "noob" question, so apologies... but what's the difference between Analogue and Digital chorus, sound-wise? Sorry, I'm very ignorant about effects!

Also, is there such a thing as a harmoniser pedal? All the Harmonizers I have come across seem to be rackmount. And if there is, what price would I be looking at in the UK?

Cheers

Smithy
Analogue and Digital chorus do the same thing, its just that analog chorus is going to sound kinda "watery" and thick whereas a Digital chorus is going to be alot more glassy and icey sounding, and be thinner and cleaner sounding. Plus. . .any Digital ANYTHING of any sort were mega popular in the 80's. IMO, Analog chorus sounds muddy and bad on distorted gutiars (while its absolutely lovely on clean guitar tones). Digital chorus also sounds bad, IMO, but it will give you that almost flanging type of 80's sound when used with distorted guitar.

Harmonizer pedal, yes there is. Boss makes one called the PS-5 super shifter. It does harmonies set to a certain key, and it can do whammy-style effects like a Digitech Whammy pedal if you plug an expression pedal into it. (sold seperately)

Granted, it wont be a replacement for an Eventide Harmonizer, but they're much more affordable. Cheap thrills.
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Re: Need help finding a tone.

Thanks guys, I think I'll check out one of those.
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post #8 of 11 (permalink) Old 07-12-2006, 04:57 PM
 
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Re: Need help finding a tone.

Do yourself a favor and get the Digitech Whammy. It is about %40 more expensive (new, that is), but they are soooo much better in terms of versatility and ease of use. Nothing against Boss, but it this particular area (harmonization), Digitech is better.
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Whammies rule. Wish I'd never gotten rid of mine. The tracking was incredible. Nothing has come close, since. Wondering how that new pedal (Expression Factory?) does, with tracking................
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post #10 of 11 (permalink) Old 07-19-2006, 11:25 PM
 
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Sounds like you need an old handwired Marshall from the '69-'74 with some EL34 tubes in it. Turn up the volume and keep most the tone controls around 5. And make sure you have a Les Paul with some mid output pickups in it.

I have a Les Paul with BKP Steve Stevens Rebel Yells in it... what a better choice for a Steve Stevens tone

He's been using Roccaforte amps these days which are similiar to old Marshalls, along with his 6 old Marshall heads. In the end, it always sounds like an old Marshall though. I really do love his tone
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Re: Need help finding a tone.

I found my ultimate tone tonight!








Unfortunately, it was in my driveway and I backed my Dodge Ram over it.
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