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post #1 of 9 (permalink) Old 08-05-2006, 04:47 AM Thread Starter
 
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Not sure what to get?

I'm not sure what I should purchase. A Laney half stack or some Shure mics, M-Audio 410 firewire interface, and a Mackie 1402 mixer? Or maybe even a drum set?

I was thinking about setting up a recording studio, at least a basic one for now and was told that the above equipment was all that was necessary to record [along with decent recording software and studio monitors, which I have]. I was also thinking of a half stack just because I want an upgrade in amps. A drum set was the third possibility so that I could just make some drum beats myself, or if I ever get bored of guitar [psh like that'll happen haha].
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post #2 of 9 (permalink) Old 08-05-2006, 10:17 AM
 
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Re: Not sure what to get?

well what amp do you have now ? if it is kind of small but fairly decent quality i'd go the recording route . I have a guitar port , it is great to be able to record a simple little progression and then try make a solo over it . If you looking to record your amp i would go with the mic and interface like you were already thinking . There are a couple of really good drum beat programs and if not you can buy a drum/rythem machine . Drum kits are expensive and take up too much room plus with a drum machine you dont have to contend with human error .
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post #3 of 9 (permalink) Old 08-05-2006, 02:36 PM Thread Starter
 
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Re: Not sure what to get?

Yeah that thought just occured to me last night, how I could spend the equivalent of getting a decent drum set for a lot of quality guitar parts... err, amps, etc.

Right now I have a simple practice amp, 15 watts, just for home use. It has subpar sound quality though, very muddy. I do use a POD 2 through it, so maybe that's a contributing factor..? Our band doesn't play that many shows, but when we do, it's usually around a 500 person crowd (fairly small), usually outdoors [and I usually use our ex-guitarist's spare JCM head, but he's moved, thus I am left with the practice amp, which in turn equals no shows.]

We've been recording through a simple computer microphone which gives us horrible playback and recording quality [hey, what would you expect?] thus maybe recording equipment is in dire need.

Or could I get the best of both wolrds by upgrading my amp to a <100 watt tube amp [suggest cheap, but decent ones] and as well get the necessary recording equipment for at least the guitarists and bassist [the drummer can handle micing on his own].
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^^^ I think going with that idea (the best of both worlds by upgrading your amp to a <100 watt tube amp and getting the necessary recording equipment for atleast the guitarists and bassist) is the best route to go. I'd suggest you get a Mesa or any tube 2x12 combo in your price range. Then use the rest of your money to buy the recording equipment.
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Re: Not sure what to get?

well having a recording setup doesn't help if you dont have sometime to record . I can see your problem and given that you amp is smaller i am going to say that a amp would be the next thing to get . It wouldn't have to be a super expensive stack for you to notice how well your tone is going to improve .

There are a lot of great amps out there , soild state or tube that are high quality and have great tone for a reasonable price . it would depend on your music and what your going for .

also if your computer has an 1/8 inch recording input on the sound card you can buy a 1/4 inch to 1/8 inch converter and run your pod into a computer based recording program . Or i have a mic that has a 1/4 inch cable and run it into a converter for 1/8 and that i how a record my physical amp . It doesn't get the greatest sound quality but the mic is sort of crappy and i am sure that the sound card isn't that great but hey it will get you by until you have more money to spend on a full set up .
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Re: Not sure what to get?

Wait would I need to get a new sound card as well? I have a Creative Labs Audigy 2Z or something of that name.

Tubes are considerably more expensive, but offer a much better sound and tone. Would you recommend a solid state or a tube and what brand amps/models, given that I would probably still want/need to purchase recording gear as listed above [because I know almost all of you will say tube amps hands down]? I was thinking of a Laney head and a 2x12 cab, but of course I am VERY open to any other opinions.
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Wait would I need to get a new sound card as well? I have a Creative Labs Audigy 2Z or something of that name.

Tubes are considerably more expensive, but offer a much better sound and tone. Would you recommend a solid state or a tube and what brand amps/models, given that I would probably still want/need to purchase recording gear as listed above [because I know almost all of you will say tube amps hands down]? I was thinking of a Laney head and a 2x12 cab, but of course I am VERY open to any other opinions.

nope you wouldn't need a sound card if you have an interface .

what music are you playing ? laney from what i hear is very nice , i have never personally played one .

As far as good sounding soild state heads go, the peavey xxl is nice very tube like and cheaper at around 300 to 350 used .

the ibanez tone blaster head , 235 new is a very good vaule . I tt packs a tone of distortion , cleans are alright and IMO is fairly versital .

I have never played but hear good things about the carvin sx head . Very reasonably priced and like i said are suppose to be fairly good sounding .

moving to tube and hybrid you get these in a fairly decent range

the vox ad100vt head . These amps pack quite an aray of sounds , from effects to amp modelers . The different model amp sounds are close to the real thing for the most part , the effects are decent and the head can be overdriven like a normal tube amp . these sell for 400 new .

the epiphone socal 50 is an all tube amp head . By the way epiphone descibes the amp , it sounds like it is a mesa boogie solo 50 . I haven't even heard of anyone buying one yet , they are newer and sell for 500.

it really again depends on what sound your going for and at what price , there are a ton of amps out there .
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Re: Not sure what to get?

Yeah I apologize for giving a vague request of amps. I'm looking for either tube or solid state, either combo or head [and then hook myself up with an Avatar 2x12 cab]. I'm looking for a classic rock sound, mostly from the 70s and 80s. but I also want the option and ability to get a nice thick, heavy, and chunky metal sound. Of course, I would want a very clear and stable clean option as I might also be hooking my POD 2 to it as well. I do however want to keep my price range for an amp or halfstack under $450 and spend the rest on recording equipment.

EDIT: Found an amp on the Bay but it says it's been recapped with orange drops. What does this mean and is it worth purchasing an amp head that's been recapped?

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post #9 of 9 (permalink) Old 08-07-2006, 08:42 PM Thread Starter
 
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Re: Not sure what to get?

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