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post #1 of 7 (permalink) Old 09-06-2003, 09:53 AM Thread Starter
 
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in/out difference b/t DD-3 and G-major?

What's the difference between in/out of a processor (like G-Major) and a pedal (like DD-3)?

I've been using a G-Major in the loop of my Budda. Although I find it adds noise and lowers the volume of the amp (yes I've tried both settings... consumer and pro ) I still need fx for the gig I do, so I've just learned to live with it. When I goof around at home I'll run the amp w/o fx and the difference in tone is big.

Just to do it I took an old Boss dd-3 and ran it in the loop today. No loss of tone, the volume stayed up, tone is way better... basically solved the problems I've been living with. Sounded way better then the G-Major...Why? Is there a difference in level?
If there is... is there a processor on the market that runs at the same level as the dd-3? I need the flexability of midi control, tap tempo, etc.

Any thoughts would be great.
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post #2 of 7 (permalink) Old 09-06-2003, 12:17 PM
 
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What you need is an effect box run in parallel. Basically what you do is split the signal and run one cable to the effect box, process it there, and then mix it with the dry signal. This way you won't lose any tone since only the wet signal will pass through AD/DA conversion.
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I've thought about going with a mixer from CAE or Axess electronics...
But that still doesn't explain why the Boss pedal sounds more level and quiter than the G-Major.
Any thoughts?
Is this an impedance problem I'm dealing with?
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The default setting for the G-Major is that the volume is at 90% (I think it's 90%), this is to be able to increase the volume as a boost for solos.
I have never used the DD-3 so I don't know exactly how it works.
And another thing about the G-Major, it's not designed to run in parallel so you may want to get another processor if your building a parallel rig.
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The G-Major isn't parallel? Are you sure? There is a menu for setting it "parallel", "semi-Parallel", and "series". If it isn't true parallel, then that would explain a lot. But I have it set Parallel.
Also, the outputs are at 100%.
Thanks for the help so far.
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post #6 of 7 (permalink) Old 09-07-2003, 04:41 AM
 
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The setting you're talking about sets how the effects work internally. If you set it to serial the signal will pass through effect block 1, then effect block 2, then effect block 3... If you set it to parallel it will split the signal and run through each effect block separatly and then mix everything.
By "not designed to be run in parallel" I mean that you cannot easily mute the dry sound. If you use a mixer and blend the dry signal with a signal that contains part dry, part wet signal you'll get phase problems.
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OK... that makes sense. thanks for the clarification.
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