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post #1 of 18 (permalink) Old 10-22-2009, 01:54 PM Thread Starter
 
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Practice combo recommendations

Greetings!

I am considering switching from modeling/SS combo to a tube one for home practice. What I am looking for should ideally meet the following requirements:
  • All-Tube (no hybrids)
  • 15-50 Watts
  • FX Loop
  • 2 channels
  • Transparent clean channel
  • High-gain channel comparable to 5105/Recto/Soldano/ENGL
I tried the Blackstar HT5 and Egniter Rebel already, but both do not meet the high-gain criteria above. My #1 candidate so far is the new Peavey 6505 112. It looks good on paper, but I want to see some unbiased reviews before I order it.

Your suggestions will be greatly appreciated.

Thanks!
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post #2 of 18 (permalink) Old 10-22-2009, 03:01 PM
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Re: Practice combo recommendations

ENGL Raider or Sovereign maybe?
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home practice eh? you might be better off with a modeling amp honestly. even some 5w tube amps can be loud enough to gig with and many tube amps don't really start to 'sing' until they are pushed hard volume-wise. at home practice volumes, they can sound thin and fizzy.

but your best bet is to go try it out, but my experience is modeling is usually your best bet for home practice.
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home practice eh?
Totally missed that..

Still, the ENGL amps start sounding nice at quite low volumes.
At least my ENGL SE does. I use it at home all the time.
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HT-5 with a distortion pedal in front of it?
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home practice eh? you might be better off with a modeling amp honestly. even some 5w tube amps can be loud enough to gig with and many tube amps don't really start to 'sing' until they are pushed hard volume-wise. at home practice volumes, they can sound thin and fizzy.

but your best bet is to go try it out, but my experience is modeling is usually your best bet for home practice.
Completely agree. I'd suggest a Line 6 or similar for home practice.

If you have the cash people are saying the Axe-FX is about as good as it gets
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Having said that...

The Boogie Mk V runs at 10 watts if you want all the features you've listed
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The first amp I can think of that covers all the bases you're wanting, and is easily available, is the ValveKing 112. The only draw-backs I can think of with it are that the gain isn't going to be as over the top as that of an Engl or Saldano,(nothing a decent distortion pedal can't remedy) and there are a lot of quality issues with this amp, from what I have seen. I see this amp come up on Peavey's forum often with complaints of it going belly-up after a short while. Hit and miss on quality control but it is a fairly inexpensive amp anyway. They make a blue million of these amps, so it's not like you couldn't get it replaced easily. Then again, I have a friend who has had one of these for years and never had a problem.

I don't have any direct experience with the 6505+ 112 but, if it's circuitry is essentially the same as all other 6505 models, you can count on two things: Very little wiggle room in the clean channel before it starts to overdrive a bit, and a lot of hiss. Quality, however, shouldn't be an issue. They're well-made amps.

Others that come to mind easily: There's the Fender Supersonic 112 but it only has a single input. Marshall JVM205C - once again, single input but everything else you're looking for.

Outside of that, for just practice at home, I'll have to side with the other folks and suggest a hybrid modelling amp too. The Line6 Spider Valve amps are great for what they do and also have a power amp in/preamp out,(loop). Bogner Alchemist and Peavey Vyper,(tube version) are comparable as well.
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Double post. My bad.
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Having said that...

The Boogie Mk V runs at 10 watts if you want all the features you've listed

Trust me, even in 10 watt mode the Boogie Mark V is loud enough get the police called to your house...
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See also -

I have a Vox VT30 which hand on heart sounds better than my Cornford Roadhouse at bedroom volumes.

Modern modelling amps are little pieces of wizardry as far as I'm concerned!
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+1 on the Blackstar HT-5. You could also look at one of the simpler 5 watt heads from Blackheart, Epi, or Vox. If you are really looking for just a home practice amp, I'd probably keep things cheap and just look at one of those simple 5 or less watt tube amps. The tubes will give you solid tone but if you also want effects and things, nothing wrong with a line6 or Roland cube of some sort.
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Trust me, even in 10 watt mode the Boogie Mark V is loud enough get the police called to your house...
Well, a 5 watter is over 1/4 as loud as a 100 watter, and putting the volume on 2 on a 100 watter is already way too loud for general home use, so of course 10 watts is still very very loud.

Even in a 10 watt amp you could probably use an attenuator, and his wattage requirement is 15-50 anyways.
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Well, a 5 watter is over 1/4 as loud as a 100 watter, and putting the volume on 2 on a 100 watter is already way too loud for general home use, so of course 10 watts is still very very loud.

Even in a 10 watt amp you could probably use an attenuator, and his wattage requirement is 15-50 anyways.
The Mk V can also run in 45 and 90 watt modes. Best of all worlds
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Check a DS-1 or similar in front of the HT-5 and you will have searing high gain tone. that's what I do with my head when I want to get a real metal sound. It's amazing.
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