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post #1 of 12 (permalink) Old 02-27-2004, 08:20 PM Thread Starter
 
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Which Preamp is the best?

Which preamp(rackmount) do you think is the most versatile, faultless?i mean which preamp is the best? Please help me, i want to have a preamp which could give me the sound of Michael Romeo's,John Petrucci's, Joe Satriani's, Steve Vai's , Richie Kotzen's also Eric Clapton's, Joe Scofield's gear.

But i am looking for a preamp that does not requier a cabin emulator(speaker simulator).For eq: Line6 POD XT Pro it includes a speaker simulator too.

Please help me.
Thanx.
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post #2 of 12 (permalink) Old 02-27-2004, 10:21 PM
 
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No preamp will give you their tone, because the tone is in how they play, not in their gear. Otherwise every rich guitar newbie would just buy the same gear and sound like them.
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Re: Which Preamp is the best?

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Which preamp(rackmount) do you think is the most versatile, faultless?i mean which preamp is the best? Please help me, i want to have a preamp which could give me the sound of Michael Romeo's,John Petrucci's, Joe Satriani's, Steve Vai's , Richie Kotzen's also Eric Clapton's, Joe Scofield's gear.

But i am looking for a preamp that does not requier a cabin emulator(speaker simulator).For eq: Line6 POD XT Pro it includes a speaker simulator too.

Please help me.
Thanx.
you can get close to some guitar sounds:
michael romeo? you can go for a pod xt. his sound in odyssey is so crappy than you can but have something better with the XT.
petrucci? if you're a follower, a goat, just buy a mesa triaxis and the 2:90 that goes with it. alot of JP wannabe guys have this combo.
satriani? what about a ds-1 pedal vai and kotzen? clapton and scofield? here I cant help you. a mesa studio preamp could do it, I'm not sure.
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ADA mp-2 is currently in my rig with a carvin 50:50(well, t-100..same principle) But a soldano sp-77 is a good choice for a simple preamp.(not midi, only 2 channels but sounds great for a couple hundred bucks on ebay.) But my fav is probably the x88 or x99 midi preamp from Soldano. And for a mere 2,000(USED) you can own one of these babies. OR, for $20 a month for the rest of your life...
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TriAxis, JMP-1, Engl 580.
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post #6 of 12 (permalink) Old 02-28-2004, 07:57 PM
 
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If you're just going for a practice type set up, I'd say go for a Line 6 Pod PRO and run it through some powered monitors. That'll get you very close to all those sounds. I have that set up in my studio room through a roland digital recorder into my monitors. I love the flexibility of the POD Pro and all the features, it's a fantastic piece of equipment.

If you're looking for live rigs, you're going to need several different preamps and switching system to get all those sounds nailed. You're going to need mesa stuff for the Petrucci sounds..just no way around that, and more marshall type sounding rigs for the vai and satch sounds. A triaxis may get you close on both accounts, but it won't be dead on, and it'll be $$$$.
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Well, with that list... I REALLY hate to say it (just ask twohands ) but Line6 is your only bet. Those tones are just WAY too diverse to be nailed by a single amp. Not only are we talking huge;y different preamp sounds, but there's a substantial difference in tone and compression between a 6L6 and EL-34 power tube.

As for speaker emulation, it can be bypassed in the line6 stuff, if you're using it with a poweramp and a cabinet.

More imporantly, though, do you REALLY need to have all those tones? I mean, back when I was playing a mesa combo (rocket-44; think of a VERY pared down mark-IV), i once posted a cover of Satch's "Always With Me..." over at www.guitarwar.com, with a RG-520 (mahogany body). Gearwise, that's about as far away from satch's setup as you can get, yet it was a LONG time before i got more compliments about my tone again than i did on that cover. It might not have "sounded" exactly like satch, but it "felt" right. Likewise, my current setup, a TSL-100 head, sounds totally authentic playing dream theater riffs. Sure, it's worlds away from a dual recto/mark-IIC+ doubletracked tone in actual "sound," but it still sounds "right." It's more what you play and how you play it than what you play it through. I'm not saying I can sound exactly like either of those players whenever I want to, far from it, it's just that a good high-gain tube head that has a good tone on it's own will get you close enough.

Play a bunch of amps until you find one YOU like, and let the rest of it sort itself out. You'll be happier in the long run doing that than spending hours tweaking preamp resets trying to nail fifteen different players' tones.

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There is no "best" preamp...


Isn't it wonderful!!

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post #9 of 12 (permalink) Old 03-01-2004, 10:01 PM
 
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i have a rocktron voodu valve and it sounds great it has a pre and post eq on it so u can get any sound you need it also has really good efects that are programable plus it has a real tube !!!!!
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I think Drew here has made the most sense out of all of us yet.
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post #11 of 12 (permalink) Old 03-02-2004, 01:41 PM
 
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I just played the Randall RM-4 preamp and it sounded great. It's the one with the modules. I tried every module and the ones I liked best were the Blackface, Clean, Top Boost, JTM, Brown, Modern and Ultra Lead. You can use four modules in the preamp chassis and I believe you could get close to all of the sounds you mention with this preamp if you had the right four installed. I'm really considering getting one soon and it's hard for me to decide which four to choose.
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post #12 of 12 (permalink) Old 03-03-2004, 05:55 PM
 
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I'll say try them all

But certainly try these:
Egnater M4
VHT GP3
Engl 580
CAE 3+SE
Bogner Fish

Those are IMO the best on the market. They are TUBED! !
Makes a world of difference to a Pod XT or marshall JMP-1 (even though the last one has a tube, but isn't run by tubes)
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