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post #1 of 24 (permalink) Old 05-25-2006, 06:44 PM Thread Starter
 
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Should I install coil splitting on my Les Paul?

Here's the deal. I ordered a set of BKP Steve Stevens Rebel Yell pickups. I could spend $30 and buy push pull pots so I could enable coil splitting.

How much work is it to wire up for coil splitting? I'm trying to figure out if it's worth it or not.
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Re: Should I install coil splitting on my Les Paul?

It's not that much work... the difference is running and soldering 2 more wires from the pickups to the push-pull pot.

Worth it? I'd totally argue "yes", but I've played in a pseudo funk band for years, so I can't imagine life without some sort of single coils. I'm kinda biased.

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Re: Should I install coil splitting on my Les Paul?

Eh, you might as well while you're at it. Why limit yourself to the humbucker sound if you can have single coils with it, as well?
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Re: Should I install coil splitting on my Les Paul?

I wouldn't. but that's just because I like the in between sounds on a strat, but am not too into the lone single coil sound
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Re: Should I install coil splitting on my Les Paul?

I think its a cool thing to do, opens up more tones on the LP, but whether you will use it, is really up to you.

Personally, I prefer a coil split for the neck pup and since you are using an LP (22fret neck) I would coil split the coil nearest to the neck, for that sweeter neck tone. For the bridge, I rather run it in parallel, split wise its too "twangy" and thin and trebly for me ears.

Gah, LPs and their 2 vol 2 tone controls... I could have a field day with wiring on those things since I'm a 1 vol 1 tone guy.
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Re: Should I install coil splitting on my Les Paul?

The other thing I should mention is that I have coil splitting on my Carvin DC127 and they split very nicely -- definitely among the best split humbucker single coils I have ever heard.

I really don't know if I'd even use it to be honest. That that I am opposed to single coils or anything even, but a lot of humbuckers sound too thin when split to be usable for much. I guess I would need to hear it.

By the way... is this what I would need? I notice that it says "short shaft" and I'd think I need a long shaft with a Les Paul? (but it is a Gibson, so I'd assume it would work) - http://www.***************.com/produ...aft?sku=306113

Also if anyone knows of any websites with wiring diagrams for this offhand, please hook me up

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Re: Should I install coil splitting on my Les Paul?

http://www.allparts.com/categories.p...me=500K%20POTS

I think EP_0296-000 is a long shaft. Other than that, I can't find a push pull pot with a long shaft anywhere!
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http://www.has-sound.com/parts.htm#Pots

500k Long Shaft Push-Pull Control Pots, Audio Taper, DPDT

Dimarzio has the wiring diagram on their Humbucker wiring.pdf or something, the piece of paper that comes with each Dimarzio humbucker...
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Re: Should I install coil splitting on my Les Paul?

I really like push/push pots better, they switch faster on the fly, but you have to hunt to find good ones. I haven't so I'm using cheap ones (smaller than some ones I had years ago) on my LP and my RG560, but have only had to replace one that eventually wouldn't stay in the down position. This is a good site, I may do the Jimmy Page thing on my LP Custom: http://www.guitarelectronics.com/cat...ickupdiagrams/
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Re: Should I install coil splitting on my Les Paul?

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http://www.has-sound.com/parts.htm#Pots

500k Long Shaft Push-Pull Control Pots, Audio Taper, DPDT

Dimarzio has the wiring diagram on their Humbucker wiring.pdf or something, the piece of paper that comes with each Dimarzio humbucker...
A little cheaper than most of them too! Just ordered them, thanks!

I was looking at Dimarzio's diagram. It looks real easy, but I don't get something. What it is telling me to do to split the coils is like this -

Standard humbucker configuration: Connect the black and white wires together (the colors may vary for other manufacturers)

Split coils: Connect the black and white wires together, and connect them to the ground?

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What it is telling me to do to split the coils is like this -

Standard humbucker configuration: Connect the black and white wires together (the colors may vary for other manufacturers)

Split coils: Connect the black and white wires together, and connect them to the ground?
I have several coil split wiring diagrams here:

http://www.has-sound.com/info.htm

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Re: Should I install coil splitting on my Les Paul?

Those are saying the same thing as Dimarzio said. I know where to run the wires, but it doesn't make sense to me why connecting them to the ground splits the coil. I guess it works though...

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Those are saying the same thing as Dimarzio said. I know where to run the wires, but it doesn't make sense to me why connecting them to the ground splits the coil. I guess it works though...
You send one of the coils to ground so it is just the other one on by itself.

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Re: Should I install coil splitting on my Les Paul?

But I put the north and south wires to the ground... I guess that would put the first coil on and ground the second. I think I understand it now.

At least what I do seems easy enough!
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Re: Should I install coil splitting on my Les Paul?

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Standard humbucker configuration: Connect the black and white wires together (the colors may vary for other manufacturers)

Split coils: Connect the black and white wires together, and connect them to the ground?
Well, what happens here is that you are taking the mid point, where you join the two coils in series, then switching it to ground, so you are shorting out one coil (the one who's other end is soldered to the back of the pot or some other ground point) and only leaving the other coil running - simple!

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