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post #1 of 4 (permalink) Old 08-13-2010, 06:57 PM Thread Starter
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Speaker simulators, better than mics???

Are this speaker simulators better that the classic mics?

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post #2 of 4 (permalink) Old 08-15-2010, 04:02 AM
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Re: Speaker simulators, better than mics???

Speaker Simulators can come very close but never as good as the real deal. But at the same time, if the mic technique is poor, and the room is not adequate, and for the sake of saving time and money, there are great speaker simulators out there, Palmer comes to mind among the best, and as for modelers/processors, I'd say the Fractal Audio Axe F/X is the best amp/cab simulator ever made, you get all the amps you'll ever need, with all the speaker cabs you can think of, for around $1700.00, but if you are on a budget, I recommend Sansamp products, or the best for under $500.00 would be the Digitech GSP 1101, which I own, and I've gotten amazing results and more tones that I'd ever used. The Digitech is a 1 space rackmount unit, comparable to the Line6 in price, but way superior in tone, specially great reverbs by Lexicon. With all this said, still, if you can mic a great sounding speaker with your favorite amp, go for it.
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Re: Speaker simulators, better than mics???

They are really good quality. I've tried the palmer stuff but I've found much better. I use an ISO cabinet as my speaker connection and load on my amp and what I do is run Trilium Labs convolution reverb with my Pro Tools setup and run the Redwirez Cabinet impulses through that program and they sound amazing! You can use any convolution reverb program or any program that can read impulses. Easy to use and setup.
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Re: Speaker simulators, better than mics???

Lots of variables here so there's no clear cut answer. Speaker sims are used on lots of records and are becoming a more accepted tool. For example, Satch has used a palmer speaker simulator for years. A good speaker simulator can be as good as a well placed mic.

The pros of the sim are that it's simpler than mic'ing, requires less space, and allows for recording at low volumes. The cons are that they often sound a bit sterile and lack some of the 3 dimensional sound qualities that can be captured using mics. I find sims perfectly adequate for rhythm guitars but I usually like a mic'd sound for my leads at least blended in with a sim if I use a sim at all.

The pros of mics are that they capture ambient noise of the room (sometimes a double edged sword) and therefore sound a bit livelier. The downside is that placement requires experimentation and it can get expensive because there is no such thing as an end all/be all mic for any source.

I don't have any experience with the Palmer, but like I mentioned, at least one pro has used their stuff.
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