Why is it that everyone is always stomping on the Quality of Crate amps......
Have they spent time with one in the last 10 yrs????
Do they realize that for 7 yrs running Crate was the most sold amp in the World....not USA "WORLD".
I just don't get it............every model they make isn't GREAT but there has been some nice Crate STUFF over the yrs..
Crate amps are relatively inexpensive and most people that own them come to terms with what they are (budget amps). Personally, I got a crate back in '89 and i still have it to this day but it's not something I would brag about, other than the fact that my parents gave it to me as a present and that's the main reason why I still have it.
Like jb said, Crates are what they are, cheaper priced amps for beginner and such.
We (the guitar community) tend to be snobs about our gear to justify why we pay so much for the stuff we buy is one reason Crate gets bagged on so much. The other reason could be they make cheap amps that are fine for beginners practicing in their bedroom, not pros or tone freaks.
I've owned a couple and they were what they were - bad tone and shotty built amps. The only one I liked was the Club series tube amps they put out - although I wouldn't spend my money on one.
I tried a few of the other tube amps they put out, Blue Voodoo and whatever the other one was and IMHO I wouldn't spend my money on those if they were the last amps around. Just my opinion.
I don't mean to offend anyone, play what you want, they just don't do it for me.
I've got a Crate....2 actually. One is a Power Block which I don't really use at all. My main amp is a 2x12 combo that was bought back in '89 or '90. I remember vividly what the price was ~$1200. It's a limited edition 990, whatever that is. I knew nothing about amps back then. I plugged in at the music store and said, "That one!" I've used it ever since and still throws out some awesome sound. However, my tone comes from my GNX4 really. But the amp itself I would never part with. I've not tried any of the newer amps out today though. Perhaps mine is one of the better quality versions (?) I've tried to look online to get more details about the amp, but I've never been able to find anything else about it, any other users, nothing.
I owned a Crate GX900H head for a couple years, and I had no qualms gigging with it, whatsoever. Ultimately, the only reason why I sold was because I was looking to get closer to a JCM800, hard rock-type tone. The metal tones I could get out of it were great.
For a short time, I owned a Blue Voodoo, and it was awful. Easily the worst sounding all valve amp in existence. Now, the Crate Stealth is an entirely different story, I played one once, and it was awesome.
They are good amps, they just don't cost a bunch. The power block is great if you use a POD or whatever... The beginner practice amps are just about the best for the money. My buddy has a blue voodoo and it sounds good. Can't beat it for $400 bucks!
I use a Power Block (just as a power amp-bypass the preamp stage) in my rig 100% of the time. There is not a better sounding/louder power amp on the market that weighs in at less than 5lbs. and less than $100!!! I wish they still made them or at least a rack mount version.
................. Epiphone sell lots of guitars too...... that doesn't make them good though.
I really do believe that amps are where your buck will make the biggest bang for your tone - any guitar that intonates and stays roughly in tune will sound fantastic through a TriAxis/2:90 rig..... but a $10 000 PRS Private Stock will sound just like a 15 watt solid state amp if that's what you plug it into!
crates are okay. thats about it. it's not worth putting down or praising really. if you think your crate is the best amp in the world you're probably lying to yourself, or you haven't played many other amps. I play a crate because I couldnt afford a mesa, and I liked it a lot better than other amps for $300-400. it's okay.
but I will say that I don't know what people are talking about they aren't relaible or tough.
I owned a Crate 1/2 stack back in the early nineties, and it was ok, actually was running a preamp through the clean channel, so it wasn't all Crate. :lol: I will say though that Crate really stood behind their products. I called with a minor complaint, that I received my cab with the name plate cracked. Not only did they send me a new name plate, but a lot of other goodies (Stickers, Crate fanny pack, and Crate Neon sign)
Funny thing was, a year later I had pulled the name plate off, because I was embarrassed to be playing through a Crate. :lol:
I'm not a fan of Crate, except their Vintage Club series (not the ones currently at GC...the ones I'm referring to have been out of production for quite some time). Those amps are really good, and I'm a proud owner of a VC50H. The cleans are to die for (very shimmery, warm, and lush), and they blow many higher end amps' clean channels out of the water (just ask a few people on the Gear Page forums). The gain channel is pretty good, considering the money I paid for this halfstack ($400 used). After retubing it (some quality EL84s), it really shines. I'm saving for a Splawn Quickrod to use for my dirty stuff, and I'll use the Crate for cleans. Should make for a killer combo.
Everyone is probably hacking on them because they dont like them. That's usually how it works.
Step 1) people dont like a product
Step 2) they say bad things about said product to let others know their opinion of it.
I had a few crates when it was all I could afford, it was ok for what it was, but it was by no means a great amp.
Way, I dont think I would ever ask anyone anything on TGP. That has to be the worst board I have ever subscribed to, Im sure there are some smart people there, but I can only take so many Collings, John Mayer, Dxmble, and my boutique XXXX is better than everything threads.
Way, I dont think I would ever ask anyone anything on TGP. That has to be the worst board I have ever subscribed to, Im sure there are some smart people there, but I can only take so many Collings, John Mayer, Dxmble, and my boutique XXXX is better than everything threads.
I have a crate rfx15 with an 8in speaker. it sounds pretty darn good. even better into my legacy 2x12 cab. I paid $99 used at a music store. for bedroom or apt jamming, it's great. the clean is very good, and the gain is usable. it has more gain than most people would use. the effect are nice. the downside is it's not switchable. but I highly recommend it for anyone looking for a bedroom amp.
crate amps have good cleans, only on there SS amps. i HATE there tube amps, sound SOO bad. I'm actually looking into a powerblock to run as a poweramp for my gt-8 into a cab.
hmmmm, i'd disagree. I get VERY warm cleans with both my SS and my guitar teachers one. I find tube cleans to be dry and sterile. Add a lil chorus to a SS clean channel, and you've got some nice sounds. Also make sure you're using the neck pup.
I still have an old 120 Crate combo (Which I only use as stool for my JSX combo :lol: ) in my opinion it sounds quite decent but if you crank it past 12 o'clock the sound is pure rubbish so it is an ok bedroom amp but I preffer an all tube amp even for Bedroom playing, so there...
Yep. I've had a couple of Crate SS combo's over the years for use as cheap bedroom amps. Once I brought one to a jam and tried to crank it past 12 and realized just how much it sucked. Still, decent for the bedroom jams. I don't own any Crates at the moment.
I've owned a few crates over the years, and they all sounded like a box of bee's, once I got my POD + Power amp I never looked back and chucked them all into a dumpster.. Crate is basically a company that makes a million different amps, but only 3 or 4 good ones. The reason why there are one of the biggest amp selling company's in the world is because they picked quantity and price over quality, pure and simple. Don't forget also that they are about the biggest amp brand in the world to be seen in pawn shops and used music stores all around the world too.
Here's my Crate. It doesn't rule. But it's usable. For an inexpensive little bedroom/living room amp. It's great for jammin, learning songs, or taking to play a coliseum gig!!
Isn't Crate owned by SLM (or another umbrella company?)? Don't they also own and/or distribute Korg, Marshall, Takamine, Washburn, Parker and a few other brands?
I get bothered seeing items get made cheaper and cheaper (labor wise AND parts wise) but seeing prices still going up. This seems to be consistent with most brands but especially with the SLM lines (N4's jumped an over $500 price hike in one year with nothing added in expense or features ).
I guess it is the principle of the matter as well as the fact I have no use for their product (Crate) to NOT support companies like that. Just my simple opinion.
Isn't Crate owned by SLM (or another umbrella company?)? Don't they also own and/or distribute Korg, Marshall, Takamine, Washburn, Parker and a few other brands?
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