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post #1 of 11 (permalink) Old 07-24-2020, 02:29 PM Thread Starter
 
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3 Humbuckers split coils which cancel at all positions

Hey guy,

I have 3 new pickups to put in my guitar Both Dimarzio Evolution for the neck and bridge and an Air Norton S for the middle position.

I want to keep the original sound meaning the split coil in position 2 and 4 with the middle fully active and the neck or bridge split, is that possible?

Logically it doesn't make send to me because both Air Norton S coils cancel against each other so the split for either the neck or bridge has nothing to cancel against? I might be wrong that's why I'm asking you guys.

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post #2 of 11 (permalink) Old 07-24-2020, 02:50 PM
 
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Re: 3 Humbuckers split coils which cancel at all positions

I don't quite understand the "cancel in all positions" part, but DiMarzio has a cool wiring diagram lookup:

https://www.dimarzio.com/support/wiring-diagrams

Check this one out... "RG270, 350 Wiring, Humbucker/Fast Track/Humbucker, 1 Volume, 1 Tone, IBZ 5-Way Switch; Neck, Neck & Middle, Middle, Bridge & Middle, Bridge "

https://d2emr0qhzqfj88.cloudfront.ne...%2C350-3hb.pdf

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Re: 3 Humbuckers split coils which cancel at all positions

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I don't quite understand the "cancel in all positions" part, but DiMarzio has a cool wiring diagram lookup:

https://www.dimarzio.com/support/wiring-diagrams

Check this one out... "RG270, 350 Wiring, Humbucker/Fast Track/Humbucker, 1 Volume, 1 Tone, IBZ 5-Way Switch; Neck, Neck & Middle, Middle, Bridge & Middle, Bridge "

https://d2emr0qhzqfj88.cloudfront.ne...%2C350-3hb.pdf
Hmmm I mean of course they will humbuck in positions 1 3 and 5 I wanted to get the split start sound in positions 2 and 4 meaning Air Norton S active and split neck or bridge depending on the position and I wanted the 2ed and 4th positions to humbuck as well without splitting the middle pickup only the bridge or neck.
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post #4 of 11 (permalink) Old 07-25-2020, 04:03 AM
 
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Re: 3 Humbuckers split coils which cancel at all positions

It is easy.
for midlle humbucker, red hot, green ground, black and white together so connect as single coil with red and green, rest of wiring is like ordinary 5way wiring.
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Re: 3 Humbuckers split coils which cancel at all positions

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Hmmm I mean of course they will humbuck in positions 1 3 and 5 I wanted to get the split start sound in positions 2 and 4 meaning Air Norton S active and split neck or bridge depending on the position and I wanted the 2ed and 4th positions to humbuck as well without splitting the middle pickup only the bridge or neck.
You need to split both pickups involved in positions 2 and 4 to be hum cancelling, so you have:

Neck both coils
Neck split with middle split
Middle both coils
Middle split with bridge split
Bridge both coils.
Here is the diagram:

https://d2emr0qhzqfj88.cloudfront.ne...lit2and4_0.pdf

Positions 2 and 4 in effect create a humbucker using one coil from each pickup, same principle as using a RWRP middle pickup on a strat.
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Re: 3 Humbuckers split coils which cancel at all positions

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You need to split both pickups involved in positions 2 and 4 to be hum cancelling, so you have:

Neck both coils
Neck split with middle split
Middle both coils
Middle split with bridge split
Bridge both coils.
Here is the diagram:

https://d2emr0qhzqfj88.cloudfront.ne...lit2and4_0.pdf

Positions 2 and 4 in effect create a humbucker using one coil from each pickup, same principle as using a RWRP middle pickup on a strat.
What switch is that?
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Re: 3 Humbuckers split coils which cancel at all positions

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What switch is that?
A 4 pole 5 way switch./ There are a fair few on the market but here's one:

https://www.thomann.de/gb/dimarzio_ep_1112.htm

or

https://www.stewmac.com/electronics/...er-switch.html
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A 4 pole 5 way switch./ There are a fair few on the market but here's one:

https://www.thomann.de/gb/dimarzio_ep_1112.htm

or

https://www.stewmac.com/electronics/...er-switch.html
I guess they are the same as the Ibanez 3PS1VLX91?
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Yes, that switch will work.
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Yes, that switch will work.
Thank you!
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Thank you!
You're welcome.
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