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post #1 of 9 (permalink) Old 12-02-2004, 04:28 PM Thread Starter
 
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Anyone tried a Seymour Duncan Screaming Demon in basswood?

If so, how's it sound? I'm sorta itching for a new bridge pickup for my 7620, as I was never 100% in love with the Tone Zone (a little overly mid-y, weak treble but somehow still with a bit of fizz in the "presence" range- great PU, but not perfect), and since my tonal philosophy has always been a bright gutiar into a dark amp and sicne I have a dark amp (Nomad-45, set fairly dark), I'm thinking a brighter pickup is in order.

I've always loved the smooth-yet-cutting quality of lynch's tone, and after checking out the sound clips for the JB, Custom, and Screamin' Demon over at seymourduncan.com, still came away preferring the SD to the other two. Problem is, 1.) it was probably demo'd in a Les Paul, not a RG, and 2.) it's not a production 7-string pickup, so I'd have to drop $140 on a custom shop version. I'm a little hesitant to do this, for a tone wood that I've never heard it in (Lynch uses alder and maple, I believe), so has anyone tried a 6-string version in basswood? Any thoughts?

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post #2 of 9 (permalink) Old 12-02-2004, 07:45 PM
 
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I tried a Demon in a basswood radius a few years ago. Lackluster in my opinion. It just didn't have enough RIP for me. From what I remember it didn't have enough output for any reasonable amount of sustain from a skinny floating bridge guitar, also, while it did sound great clean it just didn't have enough spank for me with any of that application. It had alot of Lynch feel to it, but for straight into the amp jams, there just wasn't enough to keep me "there"

To it's credit it is very smooth and fluid and the thing does scream, almost too much, it made me have to play alot more carefully. Overall, in my opinion, if it had more chunk and a bit more output i'd consider another. Also, keep in mind, I prefer The Tone Zone in basswood. Now if I could just find a suitable replacement for mohagany.

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ditto, I tried the Screamin Deamon in my JS1000 (basswood) and didn't like it at all. I bought it because I absolutly loved my SD in my strat (alder) but it just wasn't very....punchy I guess is the word. No punch or sustain in the basswood.
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ditto, I tried the Screamin Deamon in my JS1000 (basswood) and didn't like it at all. I bought it because I absolutly loved my SD in my strat (alder) but it just wasn't very....punchy I guess is the word. No punch or sustain in the basswood.
interesting, i've got a rhoads v, it came stock with Duncan TB4 in the bridge and JB i n the neck, and lacked a lot of punch, sounded really hollow... probly just the guitar(and its absolutely stupidly huge electronics cavity)... i put those pups in my neck thru RG and they sound great, basswood body... have a duncan Seth Lover in the Rhoads now in the bridge, and it still sounds kind of hollow... that guitar kind of pisses me off... i wouldn't mind making a chunk of alder shaped like the electronics cavity, routing out the spots for the electronics mounted on the metal pick guard, and putting that chunk of wood in there, i think that would really help that guitar tonally
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I wouldn't mind making a chunk of alder shaped like the electronics cavity, routing out the spots for the electronics mounted on the metal pick guard, and putting that chunk of wood in there, i think that would really help that guitar tonally
yeah more than likely it would really help with the sustain/tone area if the area is pretty big.
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To it's credit it is very smooth and fluid and the thing does scream, almost too much, it made me have to play alot more carefully.
First off, try an Evo in Mahogany- THAT thing screams.

See, that description is pretty much what I'm looking for. I'm not sure how big a deal the sustain would be, for me- in a 7-string with a tremsetter tightening up the bridge and driving a Mesa Nomad, sustain really isn't that much of an issue, as I rarely run the gain over halfway up for leads. And, I mean, I've got my Tone Zone set VERY low right now- I can take some measurements over the weekend, but off memory I'd say a bit over a half-inch off the strings.

A smooth pickup that can really scream- that's what I'm looking for. For comparison, the JB sounded a bit too bright, while the Custom sounded a little TOO scooped for my tastes in the sound clips- once again, a different amp could change this, but the SD seemed to fall right in the middle.

For those of you who haven't liked the SD, what are a few of the pickups you'd compare it to, and what are your ideal bridge pickups?

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ok so its not as big as i thought, but it still has a very hollow tone compared to the strat style alder body on my 84 yamaha with 2 humbuckers and the RG style alder body on my late 80s early 90s yamaha, those 2 guitars are fairly full toned guitars, not a tiny bit of hollowness... maybe its that metal cover over the electronics cavity? i dunno... sorry drew for hijacking ur thread haha
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I can't be much help in comparing the demon to anything, sorry about that. If i had to nail it down to one thing i didn't like about it it would be the lack of volume, it's just not loud enough. However that could have been the scooped mid quality. My second complaint would be a lack of grind.

My impression of the Demon was that it should be put in a guitar with a specific purpose. Its definately different sounding, and musical.

Like I said, I really can't knock the pickup, but I am from the more middy school, with The Tone Zone being my benchmark. My ideal sound is more of a Vinnie Moore circa The Maze, which is middy and a bit punchy. As far as comparing those two pickups, completely different animals all together.

If you're used to TheToneZone don't expect the Demon to feel or sound anything like it. I wouldn't necessarily expect anything Lynch of the Dokken era either, not in basswood anyway.

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post #9 of 9 (permalink) Old 12-07-2004, 08:53 AM
 
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Lynch used a Distortion earlier on, and he's been using JB's alot, for a while now. If you like the kind of sound he gets, then maybe you should try one of these two.
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