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post #1 of 15 (permalink) Old 05-18-2018, 01:43 PM Thread Starter
 
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Clueless about pickups but don't like my current one

It's the neck pickup in an Premium S Series 970. The pickup is a CAP-CL humbucker. Previous owner already replaced the bridge p/u with a Seymour Duncan JB which I like.

It's really hard to figure out what to put in the neck. YouTube videos are full of different amps, different effects so you never know what it will sound like in your rig. Seymour Duncan does have samples you can play and so far I like their "The Saturday Night Special".

Anyway, I don't know if I need, two wire, four wire, hot, cold, vintage, modern, etc.

I play rhythm and lead Pink Floyd style along with blues and rock. Has anyone a neck humbucker that they really like for these genres? I find the stock p/u too bright and not enough meat.
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post #2 of 15 (permalink) Old 05-18-2018, 03:57 PM
 
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Re: Clueless about pickups but don't like my current one

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It's the neck pickup in an Premium S Series 970. The pickup is a CAP-CL humbucker. Previous owner already replaced the bridge p/u with a Seymour Duncan JB which I like.

It's really hard to figure out what to put in the neck. YouTube videos are full of different amps, different effects so you never know what it will sound like in your rig. Seymour Duncan does have samples you can play and so far I like their "The Saturday Night Special".

Anyway, I don't know if I need, two wire, four wire, hot, cold, vintage, modern, etc.

I play rhythm and lead Pink Floyd style along with blues and rock. Has anyone a neck humbucker that they really like for these genres? I find the stock p/u too bright and not enough meat.

Hmm... hard to say. The new S Premiums come with a DiMarzio Air Norton in the neck position (Tone Zone bridge)... it's a great sounding neck pickup. Otherwise I've seen the Duncan Jazz pickup in the neck position paired with a JB in the bridge, one of the best selling combos of all time. Just a couple of suggestions. Duncan '59 neck is very versatile and more "classic rock" sounding too, not too bright.

My old Roadstar II frankenstrat has a JB in the bridge and two single coil sized Hot Stacks in the middle and neck positions... sounds great! They were stock pickups out of a Jackson Soloist.

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Hmm... hard to say. The new S Premiums come with a DiMarzio Air Norton in the neck position (Tone Zone bridge)... it's a great sounding neck pickup. Otherwise I've seen the Duncan Jazz pickup in the neck position paired with a JB in the bridge, one of the best selling combos of all time. Just a couple of suggestions. Duncan '59 neck is very versatile and more "classic rock" sounding too, not too bright.

My old Roadstar II frankenstrat has a JB in the bridge and two single coil sized Hot Stacks in the middle and neck positions... sounds great! They were stock pickups out of a Jackson Soloist.
Air Norton? That a pickup or a running shoe? I have the '59 in the neck of one of my Strats and yeah, it sounds great in the Strat. I'll have to checkout the Jazz pickup too. Hot Stacks? Again, pancakes or pickups? Who makes the Hot Stacks (other than IHOP)?

Thanks!
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Jazz is a great neck pickup
look for a used one on ebay they will run ~$50
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It's the neck pickup in an Premium S Series 970. The pickup is a CAP-CL humbucker. Previous owner already replaced the bridge p/u with a Seymour Duncan JB which I like.

It's really hard to figure out what to put in the neck. YouTube videos are full of different amps, different effects so you never know what it will sound like in your rig. Seymour Duncan does have samples you can play and so far I like their "The Saturday Night Special".

Anyway, I don't know if I need, two wire, four wire, hot, cold, vintage, modern, etc.

I play rhythm and lead Pink Floyd style along with blues and rock. Has anyone a neck humbucker that they really like for these genres? I find the stock p/u too bright and not enough meat.
I have the Jazz in most of my Duncan equipped guitars but my brother has the '59, frankly there is nothing really to choose between them, the Jazz has a fractionally lower DCR. Either will work really well with the JB.
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I have the Jazz in most of my Duncan equipped guitars but my brother has the '59, frankly there is nothing really to choose between them, the Jazz has a fractionally lower DCR. Either will work really well with the JB.
Listening to the two, I'm leaning towards the '59.
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Listening to the two, I'm leaning towards the '59.
Obviously a pickup made from Mahogany will be darker sounding than a Maple pickup, Ebony pickups are the best for guitars made from light timbers like Basswood, on the other hand if you have a Rosewood fretboard you probably want a locknut made from Brass and a tremolo block made from Titanium to redress the Light/Dark balance. Stainless frets on a Maple fretboard are right out of the question.
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Obviously a pickup made from Mahogany will be darker sounding than a Maple pickup, Ebony pickups are the best for guitars made from light timbers like Basswood, on the other hand if you have a Rosewood fretboard you probably want a locknut made from Brass and a tremolo block made from Titanium to redress the Light/Dark balance. Stainless frets on a Maple fretboard are right out of the question.
Yeah but I need something that complements the tonewood of the wood floors in my house.
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Yeah but I need something that complements the tonewood of the wood floors in my house.

Don't forget to compensate for your drywall... and light colored paint absorbs more sound than dark colored paint. Do yourself a favor and just lace up your Air Nortons, put on some Jazz, and enjoy your Hot Stacks with Maple! I should have known where this thread was going from the initial Pink Floyd reference... I spent quite some time yesterday jamming over a couple of Floyd style backing tracks on a nice rainy Sunday.


Oh yeah, you mentioned about 3 or 4 wire pickups. If you use 4-wire pickups you have more wiring options with coil splitting or tapping, etc...
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Don't forget to compensate for your drywall... and light colored paint absorbs more sound than dark colored paint. Do yourself a favor and just lace up your Air Nortons, put on some Jazz, and enjoy your Hot Stacks with Maple! I should have known where this thread was going from the initial Pink Floyd reference... I spent quite some time yesterday jamming over a couple of Floyd style backing tracks on a nice rainy Sunday.


Oh yeah, you mentioned about 3 or 4 wire pickups. If you use 4-wire pickups you have more wiring options with coil splitting or tapping, etc...
Lol, good to know.
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post #11 of 15 (permalink) Old 05-24-2018, 07:15 AM Thread Starter
 
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More less decided on the '59. It sounds great in my Strat. Should sound equally good in the Ibanez.
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Re: Clueless about pickups but don't like my current one

I would recommend Bareknuckle pickups. They have a lot quality pickups with voicings ranging from vintage to modern metal.
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I would recommend Bareknuckle pickups. They have a lot quality pickups with voicings ranging from vintage to modern metal.
Yup, heard good things about them. I've already bought the Seymour Duncan '59 for this one though.
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post #14 of 15 (permalink) Old 07-19-2018, 05:42 PM
 
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Re: Clueless about pickups but don't like my current one

Pickups are really subjective, try to watch as many video reviews as possible before making a decision. Even if you end up wanting to change it laster it isn't too terribly hard. Regarding the cunductor wires, you really only need 4 conductor cable if you are going to be doing any coil splitting stuff, either with a 5 way switch or Push-pull pots.
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post #15 of 15 (permalink) Old 07-20-2018, 04:44 AM
 
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Re: Clueless about pickups but don't like my current one

I wish pickup companies would provide some simple power chords DI signal from each pickup they have. Then you could reamp to see which might suit you better. Buying a pickup is so difficult until you get a chance to try it and this would help.
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