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post #1 of 24 (permalink) Old 09-14-2013, 05:54 PM Thread Starter
 
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Dimarzio Illuminator Pickups

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Re: Dimarzio Illuminator Pickups

nice! but I wish they would do a demo..not just played through his rig.
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Re: Dimarzio Illuminator Pickups

Larry Dimarzio replyed to me;

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These pickups were designed for the new preamp right?

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Hi, The pre amp is flat (no eq) it's on all the time and there is also has a boost circuit. The pickups are hi-impedance and don't requite a pre-amp.
Hope that helps,
Larry DiMarzio
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Re: Dimarzio Illuminator Pickups

Now all the JP fans are gonna cream their pants and say these are better than the gravity storms. Just wait for the wild west to start about the newest pickups (hey, didnt that thread happen just recently? )
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Now all the JP fans are gonna cream their pants and say these are better than the gravity storms. Just wait for the wild west to start about the newest pickups (hey, didnt that thread happen just recently? )
WTH gravity storms have to do with Petrucci?
Dumb fans buy their Gods pups to play with modellers but those pups were created to match their amps better so they'll never have their Gods' tones, plus as so many believe tone is in the fingers, instead of buying their Gods' gear, they have to wait till we finally be able to clone fingers and wear them like gloves
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WTH gravity storms have to do with Petrucci?
Dumb fans buy their Gods pups to play with modellers but those pups were created to match their amps better so they'll never have their Gods' tones, plus as so many believe tone is in the fingers, instead of buying their Gods' gear, they have to wait till we finally be able to clone fingers and wear them like gloves
It was meant as: Everyone bought the GS and said how awesome they were but now that JP has released his pups, the storms are going to be pushed aside because the "new" thing is out. Basically a jab at bandwagon jumpers.
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nice! but I wish they would do a demo..not just played through his rig.
+1
JP sets the tone on his rig very different than most people do.
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Re: Dimarzio Illuminator Pickups

in addition to that, this new pickup for every new album fashion is just a marketing thing, but people will buy these new pickups...

As fas as I'm concerned, I stick with my EVO2/AIR NORTON combo...
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WTH gravity storms have to do with Petrucci?
Dumb fans buy their Gods pups to play with modellers but those pups were created to match their amps better so they'll never have their Gods' tones, plus as so many believe tone is in the fingers, instead of buying their Gods' gear, they have to wait till we finally be able to clone fingers and wear them like gloves
Jeez dude, no need for the fire and brimstone. People chase trends and want to try the newest gear. Whatever.

The video I saw of the 'Trooch demoing them had such awful sound that I couldn't tell what to think, but as far as I'm concerned I'll always think of John as an AN/SS guy - most of his classic tones were done with that setup, and I haven't liked his sound as much lately.

And before you ask, no, I don't use those either.
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in addition to that, this new pickup for every new album fashion is just a marketing thing, but people will buy these new pickups...
Yes and no.
Famous players develop their pickups along with their rigs.
If crunchlab/liquifire were developed to match Mark V then YES this new one is a marketing thing if not, it'll sound different than them IF people use Mark V but the majority use modellers and those pups weren't developed to match modellers.
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Yes and no.
Famous players develop their pickups along with their rigs.
If crunchlab/liquifire were developed to match Mark V then YES this new one is a marketing thing if not, it'll sound different than them IF people use Mark V but the majority use modellers and those pups weren't developed to match modellers.
They were developed to give a sound Petrucci likes, not to "match" a certain amp. He uses a large selection of Mesas - the V, certainly, but also Rectos, Stilettos, Lone Stars, IIC+s, and I think he's used a Transatlantic a bit lately. He also, incidently, had his Mesa rigs tone-matched in his AxeFX II and occasionally uses just that for smaller gigs, so they DO work with modelers.

Finding the right pickups for you is a matter of finding something that both sounds and, arguably most importantly, feels right through your amp and given the way you play. It may be a signature pickup (and one of my guitars has an AT1 in the bridge, which works beautifully for me because I play Mesas and dial them in fairly similar to Timmons and go after a similar sort of tone), it may not, but ultimately who's name is on it doesn't hugely matter as long as running through your rig it gives you the sound you want it to and responds well to your touch. It's unfortunately all a matter of trial and error, though to be fair knowing that you like similar gear and similar tones to an artist can help speed the search somewhat.
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They were developed to give a sound Petrucci likes, not to "match" a certain amp. He uses a large selection of Mesas - the V, certainly, but also Rectos, Stilettos, Lone Stars, IIC+s, and I think he's used a Transatlantic a bit lately. He also, incidently, had his Mesa rigs tone-matched in his AxeFX II and occasionally uses just that for smaller gigs, so they DO work with modelers.

Finding the right pickups for you is a matter of finding something that both sounds and, arguably most importantly, feels right through your amp and given the way you play. It may be a signature pickup (and one of my guitars has an AT1 in the bridge, which works beautifully for me because I play Mesas and dial them in fairly similar to Timmons and go after a similar sort of tone), it may not, but ultimately who's name is on it doesn't hugely matter as long as running through your rig it gives you the sound you want it to and responds well to your touch. It's unfortunately all a matter of trial and error, though to be fair knowing that you like similar gear and similar tones to an artist can help speed the search somewhat.

definitely true..!
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Re: Dimarzio Illuminator Pickups

What is "matching to an amp" anyway? I mean I never noticed such a thing
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Re: Dimarzio Illuminator Pickups

I looked over the specs of the 6 and 7 string versions.
They are not very different than other pickups Dimarzio already has on the market.

The 6 string bridge model has almost exactly the same EQ as the Mo Joe.
It has a ceramic magnet and they wound it hotter.

The 6 string neck version is almost the same as the Air Norton.
It has a ceramic magnet and they wound it almost exactly the same.

Ceramic magnets give off more presence and or treble.

The 7 string bridge looks like an Air Norton 7 wound hotter.

The 7 string neck looks like the Liquifire 7 to me; what's the difference???
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I looked over the specs of the 6 and 7 string versions.
They are not very different than other pickups Dimarzio already has on the market.

The 6 string bridge model has almost exactly the same EQ as the Mo Joe.
It has a ceramic magnet and they wound it hotter.

The 6 string neck version is almost the same as the Air Norton.
It has a ceramic magnet and they wound it almost exactly the same.

Ceramic magnets give off more presence and or treble.

The 7 string bridge looks like an Air Norton 7 wound hotter.

The 7 string neck looks like the Liquifire 7 to me; what's the difference???
It's the subtle differences that make them different pickups, the different between the illuminator 7 and the Liquifire 7 "seems" to me to be different resistances and different pole pieces, (two rows of hex screws vs a tradtional screw/slug arrangement). Liek you seem to suggest, everything else might be identical!

I can see why any company would want to market a popular players latest gear though, no matter how subtle the differences are compared to the last model. Why? Simply because it will sell...
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