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post #1 of 11 (permalink) Old 01-21-2005, 01:14 PM Thread Starter
 
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Dimarzio PAF Joe/Blue Velvet/ EVO on RG

So, I know many of you are tired of hearing about Dimarzio Pups, but I need some help. I bought a new RG1570, basswood body, and rosewood finger board (for $300, three cheers for me). Obviously with the money I saved, Im upgrading the pups, and after researching a bit, Ive decided to put PAF Joes in the neck, Evos in the bridge and with the single coil Im probably going to be filling it with either a Blue Velvet or HS-2, still debating on that one. Im actually still debating on whether I should put Evos in the bridge or Tone Zone, but I'm leaning towards the Evos. One thing I am confident on are the PAF Joes. Any advice or previous experiences would be greatly appreciated. Also, if anyone knows of any compatibility issues with any of these pups and the RG 1570, would like to know that too.

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You'd probably should know the tone I'm looking for: I want something that can give me a great lead range, I want to be able to have access to clear and aggressive sounding harmonics, but I also want to be able to have some great clean tones as well. I wouldn't want to sacrifice one for the other. So if the JS, JEM and a Les Paul had a baby, I would want to have it sound like that.

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post #2 of 11 (permalink) Old 01-21-2005, 06:19 PM Thread Starter
 
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Re: Dimarzio PAF Joe/Blue Velvet/ EVO on RG

Maybe PAF Joe (Neck)/ Blue Velvet (S)/ and FRED (Br)? I always liked the stuff that comes out of Satriani?
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Re: Dimarzio PAF Joe/Blue Velvet/ EVO on RG

I have rg2570 and replaced the stock pups with a breed in the neck and an evo in the bridge. I love the tones that i get now. The 2 pups seem to work really well together. You can also email dimarzio tech support and get some feedback to what you are looking for. They were quick to response and very helpfull. Good luck.
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post #4 of 11 (permalink) Old 01-22-2005, 11:45 AM Thread Starter
 
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Re: Dimarzio PAF Joe/Blue Velvet/ EVO on RG

Thanks for that, I emailed Dimarzio Tech, but because of the NAMM show, they won't be able to give me an answer for another week. So you said you had a Breed in the Neck? What's your mid?
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Re: Dimarzio PAF Joe/Blue Velvet/ EVO on RG

I vote for another Paf Joe/Blue Velvet/Fred because the Fred is pretty low output to get great cleans but cna since get those harmonics wailing! The Breed is pretty hot and the Evolution is even hotter. I play with a set of Breeds in my guitar neck and bridge and it gets a very...fat PAF tone but the cleans kind of suck. Just my experiance.
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Re: Dimarzio PAF Joe/Blue Velvet/ EVO on RG

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Thanks for that, I emailed Dimarzio Tech, but because of the NAMM show, they won't be able to give me an answer for another week. So you said you had a Breed in the Neck? What's your mid?
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I just left the stock pup in. I don't use the mid all that much.
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post #7 of 11 (permalink) Old 01-23-2005, 11:59 AM Thread Starter
 
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Re: Dimarzio PAF Joe/Blue Velvet/ EVO on RG

RS Vampire, Did you go to live oak? I graduated in 99. So I found more ideas delving deeper into some of the forums, but in the end, I'm a little worried that the blue velvet might be too bright in between the humbuckers. The HS-2 may give it a smoother transition between the different positions. It also turns out that the Blue velvet is on backorder and won't arrive until mid february. I also didn't go with the fred because I've heard of stories that harmonics were not coming out as bright as hoped (others have said they couldn't be more happy with 'em, so I wasn't completely sold on it). SO I placed an order for the PAF Joe's (neck)/ HS-2 (S)/ Evolution (bridge). I haven't heard of that combination yet, so I thought I'd give it a try. I will write up an update when I test drive 'em. If they don't work out, I'll switch out the Evo for a Fred. If anyone else wants to make a comment about this particular set up, or about the Blue velvets, I would love to hear it.
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Re: Dimarzio PAF Joe/Blue Velvet/ EVO on RG

lol man whoever says the Fred can't do harmonics easily is freakin doing em wrong. A lot of times they'll come out without even trying. Yea I went to Live Oak I graduated 2002 and my sister graduated in 2000.
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Re: Dimarzio PAF Joe/Blue Velvet/ EVO on RG

Hello again.
I thought I'd give you an update as to what happend with the pups.

For starters, this was the first set of pick ups I've wired into a guitar. It worked out well, a bit scary becuase I am a poor ass bastard and I couldn't afford to f' up my guitar, or the pups for that matter, and I couldn't afford (or trust) a tech to install them; however in the end, I couldn't be more happy with the way it turned out.

I purchased the PAF Joe and Evo (bridge) but it turns out that the Blue velvet was on backorder until mid february, and I couldn't wait that long, so I purchased an HS-2.
First off, for those that are unfamiliar with installing H-S-H set up that want hum cancelling capabilities, make sure you order whatever singles you want in reverse polarity. I'm glad I didn't order the Blue velvets, as I would have needed to order them in reverse polarity. The HS-2 already comes in reverse polarity (if you go to the Dimarzio website and look under the single coil tab they should have a column devoted to hum cancelling, those that are not in that column (to my understanding) need to be ordered in reverse polarity if you want them to be hum cancelling; But if you're unsure, talk to Steve Blucher at Dimarzio, he is the freakin' man.

The tone pot also needed to be replaced, and in searching through the forums (thanks to all the member here at the jemsite), I decided to install a pull/push pot.

In order to access the tones that I wanted (the different pup configurations) I needed to get a 5 way coil switch with 24 pins (all parts).
I have it set up just like a jem but when the pot is pulled, the neck humbuckers are always on. This limits the tonal possibilities but I was more interested in getting both humbuckers on rather than splitting them up. I sat down and drew out all of the different combinations, but this is the one I liked the best.

So I am happy, and if you're concerned about f'ing up your guitar, don't be, unless you have no mechanical skills whatsoever, then take it to a tech, if not take the leap of faith on your abilities. I have a diagram of what I did, if anyone else needs it just request it here.

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post #10 of 11 (permalink) Old 02-08-2005, 02:43 PM
 
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Re: Dimarzio PAF Joe/Blue Velvet/ EVO on RG

So how are you liking the evo in the basswood RG1570? Is it as harsh as some say or are the people saying that probably just into a different sound then that produces?
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post #11 of 11 (permalink) Old 02-08-2005, 04:20 PM Thread Starter
 
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Re: Dimarzio PAF Joe/Blue Velvet/ EVO on RG

I don't think it's that harsh. It does have a bite to it, but that's what I wanted. I would probably agree with the notion that those that dislike these pups (in basswood) were looking for another sound. I was looking for tonal diversity, and the humbucks alone give me a very different sound compared to the other configurations that I set up. With that said, the evo's don't drown out the other pups when they are coupled (actively) with it. I am happy with my selection, and the evo's F'ing rock!
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