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post #1 of 24 (permalink) Old 03-12-2008, 09:42 PM Thread Starter
 
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Dimarzio pickups in Alder wood and agathis( I think)

Hey guys I have yet another question on pickup selections for two of my guitars I have two humbuckers and two projects so I Wanted to split them up. the pickups are Dimarzio steves special and a Dimarzio EVO and the guitars are Epiphone sg-310 and a cort strat copy. The SG is the one with Alder and the cort is the agathis from what I can come accross, so I Was wondering which pickup would work best for what guitar?
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ps-and dont say "ohhh whats the point thier **** guitars. I know their ****, hense projects.
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post #2 of 24 (permalink) Old 03-12-2008, 10:32 PM
 
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Re: Dimarzio pickups in Alder wood and agathis( I think)

the evo go in the alder most definetely

ive had more than one alder body with a evo in it, and they are super responsive...the agathis has a more nasaly sound to it and the steves special have a muddier umph to it...tats what i think

but in both cases

i recomend using 1 meg volume and 500k tone with a .022

this works well with high gain pickups
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Re: Dimarzio pickups in Alder wood and agathis( I think)

thanks man I shall definatly keep all that in mind!
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the evo go in the alder most definetely

ive had more than one alder body with a evo in it, and they are super responsive...the agathis has a more nasaly sound to it and the steves special have a muddier umph to it...tats what i think

but in both cases

i recomend using 1 meg volume and 500k tone with a .022

this works well with high gain pickups
Does that wiring make it more controlable, take some of the highs off or what? I'm intrested in different wiring.
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Re: Dimarzio pickups in Alder wood and agathis( I think)

I think thats what it does.
anyone else have opinions on what selection I should choose?
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post #6 of 24 (permalink) Old 03-13-2008, 03:37 PM
 
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Re: Dimarzio pickups in Alder wood and agathis( I think)

no it doesnt take the highs off at all

it allows more of the signal to get through....

for instance
if u have a 10k pup and ran it through a 500k volume....youll get about half the available output, if u had the same pup with a 1 meg pot, youll get way more output, and if u did the same with a 2 meg pot youll get even more

this basiclay increases the dynamics and how the pups are made to sound

heres a site you can call them, and they can explain it in more detail in no engineer, ut for the most part i dont know why anybody would use a 500k pup on a high gain pup, it only takes away from the pups actually performance, but thats just me

http://www.torresengineering.com/1megpot.html

http://www.torresengineering.com/2megpot.html



but seriously, it makes a huge difference, i had 500k in some guitars(stock, and i didnt know the difference) but then i got really into it, and i can just hear the differnce by far, once u go 1/2 meg, you never go back
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post #7 of 24 (permalink) Old 03-13-2008, 06:44 PM
 
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Re: Dimarzio pickups in Alder wood and agathis( I think)

So how do you avoid the pickup being to bright and ice picky? I'd like to try it but I can't say I'd want more highs with my current Evo. Also do you use the same pot on the neck pup?
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post #8 of 24 (permalink) Old 03-14-2008, 12:09 AM Thread Starter
 
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Re: Dimarzio pickups in Alder wood and agathis( I think)

ok change of plans the other body is alder aswell. hows the steves special sound in alder?
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Re: Dimarzio pickups in Alder wood and agathis( I think)

no...typicaly for proper use,

you always use a higher pot value for the volume and usually half for the tone

so

500k v 250k t .022
1 meg v 500 t .022
2 meg v 1 meg t .022

.022 would be a standard high brightness roll off value, if u wanted it to be less shimery i would suggest using

1 meg v 500t .044 tone

so that full tone on for instance u get standard sound that a 1 meg v 500k t pots would give you, but when u roll off like 1/20 of the pot it really makes a huge difference

you can even do 2 meg volume 1 meg tone and a .088 cap

then the pickup would be working at "full eficiencey" and you would get everything it has to offer....maybe roll off some tone....and then adjust ur amp, this will make the amp break up sooner also...but with all my settings ill use

x2n bridge duncan distortion neck
1 meg volume 500k tone .022 cap
and fully shielded wires, incuding shielded signal input....
even with those high gain pups, ill use tone all the way up along with volume, and my preamp/amp does the rest in the adjustments, i find its way easier to remove/roll off eq, effects, distortion etc....you can easily romove the higher...or overtones...or less wanted frequenceys....rather than to get a signal and try to boost it....i can hear the difference

sometimes ill run in clean channels the x2n with a 1 meg v 500k t and .022 with the tone pot at 1/5 rolled down...this is supperb...im a big fan of the x2n and what its capable of

but yeah i love the evo in alder

and im a firn beleiver of the 1 meg volume and 500k tone with .022

i mean if u really dont like it, you can always re wire it....but it worth a try, the dynamics improve with all pickups vs a 500k v and 250k t its like day and night!!!!

one sounds soo much more briliant and in ur face, and really makes ur amp accentuate all of ur notes twice compared to the lower value

i say dooooooo it
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post #10 of 24 (permalink) Old 03-14-2008, 09:33 PM Thread Starter
 
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thanks for all the advice man, I shall take it. whish i found some good reviews with the steves special in alder though. Im gunna take your word on the evo and put it in my JB Player jackson copy I just got tonight
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thanks for all the advice man, I shall take it. whish i found some good reviews with the steves special in alder though. Im gunna take your word on the evo and put it in my JB Player jackson copy I just got tonight


do u have pictures of the guitar??

whats going in teh neck


oh yeah is it shielded with coper tape with the seams soldered..??
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Re: Dimarzio pickups in Alder wood and agathis( I think)

Dont have any right now. The pickups in it right now are emg selects , dunno if they were out in the 80's or not when the guitar was made, but Iwas just going to keep them stock for now and replace the humbucker. Its a H/S/S
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Re: Dimarzio pickups in Alder wood and agathis( I think)

EMG selects have to be the WORST pickups ever made, anything would be an improvement.
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EMG selects have to be the WORST pickups ever made, anything would be an improvement.
emg in general are horrible pups, but some poeple love em.....me not soo much
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emg in general are horrible pups, but some poeple love em.....me not soo much
there is a pretty big difference between you not liking something and it being a horrible product. i don't even like emg's, but come on. you're talking like a 5 year old.



now on EMG Selects being the worst pickups ever made, well, that's just plain fact.
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