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post #1 of 18 (permalink) Old 01-09-2012, 04:11 PM Thread Starter
 
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Dimarzio vs. Seymour Duncan

Ive notice that alot of the Ibanez players tend to use Dimarzio over Seymour Duncan why is that, just curious.Ive installed Duncan pickups on my RG1550M and it sounds great.
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Re: Dimarzio vs. Seymour Duncan

Dimarzio seems to have more player models than Duncan. I have Duncans in some, Dimarzios in others. It's a matter of choice. Nothing more.
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Ive notice that alot of the Ibanez players tend to use Dimarzio over Seymour Duncan why is that, just curious.
Realistically if you look at Ibanez's big name players, most of them seem to also be DiMarzio endorsers.

i think this has a two-fold effect;

Firstly it has led Ibanez to build up a relationship with DiMarzio and as such we see a lot of mid to high end Ibanez guitars coming straight from the facory equipped with DiMarzio pickups.

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Secondly, the fanboys want their hero's guitar, but if they can't get the guitar, they'll settle for the pickup. Just good marketing and advertising doing its job
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Re: Dimarzio vs. Seymour Duncan

I also have both, I am not fussy about pickups, they all sound good to me.
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Re: Dimarzio vs. Seymour Duncan

I notice a distinct difference in tone between different pickups - I find Dimarzios to be darker and more colored whereas I think Seymour Duncans seem less colored and brighter - I know that obviously depends on the model but the Tone Zone vs Duncan JB debate is a great example - the Tone Zone is darker sounding while the JB has more distinct treble and high mids - both are great pups it's just a matter of what you're looking for.

I heard someone on this site (SpikeSocietySucks) offer what I felt was a pretty accurate comparison: Dimarzios and Duncans are equally good pickups. Dimarzio excel at modern voicing with the specialist "patented" mismatched coils, (think Fred, etc) and "Air" Technologies (think Air Norton). As such they have more pickups with extended / exaggerated EQ responses. Duncan on the other hand excel at vintage voiced pickups. They use original Gibson, winding equipment with modern consistency and try to nail authenticity with their components. With the exception of the Dimarzio Area pickups, Seymour Duncan is my go to for vintage tone.

I personally prefer Duncans over Dimarzios (I think I'm in the minority on this site) but they are also what I'm more used to because my main guitar (Strat) for years had Duncans so now when I play my Dimarzio equipped Strat I find the sound darker and more 'colored'. So I've been researching to see what Dimarzios are closest to the Duncans I've been using...
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Re: Dimarzio vs. Seymour Duncan

The reason I first decided to go with Dimarzio was because I didn't like that Duncan's said "Seymour Duncan" on them. I just thought they looked better. The reason I keep going with Dimarzio is because I've never been let down by them. I've yet to hear a Dimarzio I didn't like. I've got an X2N, Super 3, Evo neck, PAF Pro, and D Activator-X.
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The reason I first decided to go with Dimarzio was because I didn't like that Duncan's said "Seymour Duncan" on them.
you're right about that. If I'm paying a decent amount of money (they are at least 10$ more than dimarzio), I don't want to be their ad guy. I use that rule for pretty much anything else, hate shirts that have a giant logo or something. Give it to me for free and than we can talk

And I'm yet to find a dimarzio I don't like (have tone zone, paf pro, crunch lab, liquifie and tried a whole bunch of others), while on the other hand the only duncan I had (JB Jr) was a letdown for me. I've had a pair of seth lovers for a few years waiting for the right guitar. Hope they will be better.

So go dimarzio
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Re: Dimarzio vs. Seymour Duncan

I've got an early 80's Super Distortion and I haven't found anything I'd rather play through.
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Re: Dimarzio vs. Seymour Duncan

I remember 5 or 6 years ago I made some uninformed glaring comment about Dimarzio's sounding "expensive" and Duncan's sound "Cheap" that really hacked off a few people reading the thread; I'd only played two Duncan's back then, in poor guitars, and it was a laughable, misguided comment.

I love both brands now, as well as others, and could never say one was better than the other. I simply love something about every pickup I hear. All I really can offer on the subject is that personally, I tend to lean on Dimarzio for lead, and Duncan for rhythm, but only SLIGHTLY.. There are still moments when I'm playing something modern sounding up the neck on an AN7 and I think to myself "I'm not feeling this tone.. I want something else, like a 59, or a Jazz". It's totally situation, and vibe dependant.

Pickups I love are as follows. Can't rate any above or below each other.

Bridge - JB, Alt 8, 59, Pearly Gates, Invader. Tone Zone, Fred, Norton, PAF Joe (Yes-in the bride), Steve's Special, Breed, Evo2. USA Les Paul Stock Pickup.

Neck - 59, Pearly Gates, Jazz, P Rails. Air Norton 7, Paf Joe, Paf Pro, Breed Neck, Virtual Vintage Heavy Blues Single. USA Strat Stock Neck.
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Re: Dimarzio vs. Seymour Duncan

I agree that, as mentioned, it is to do the association of endorsed artists.

I've had Seymour's and Dimarzios in ibanezs and other axes. I don't think that there is a massive difference in the quality of build and tone in either.

Personally, I am now moving over to Bare Knuckle in everything.
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I notice a distinct difference in tone between different pickups - I find Dimarzios to be darker and more colored whereas I think Seymour Duncans seem less colored and brighter - I know that obviously depends on the model but the Tone Zone vs Duncan JB debate is a great example - the Tone Zone is darker sounding while the JB has more distinct treble and high mids - both are great pups it's just a matter of what you're looking for.
Agreed! This is what exactly what i felt. I love them both but somehow for bright sounding guitar, ibanez rg for example, i feel dimarzio has more advantage. I have duncan distortion and dimebucker on rg which i thinking to replace it with dimarzio because sometimes i just can't stand the treble.

What about bkp ? Tempted to give a shoot on the warpigs ceramic but i'm afraid it's not like my expectation.
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Re: Dimarzio vs. Seymour Duncan

I can't say that I perfer one over the other but since my RG's body is Mohogany/maple I decided you really can't go wrong with a SD Hot Rodded set! I just dropped them in my RGR421 yesterday and they are a big improvement from the stock V7/V8's I took out!! If my body had been basswood I probably would have went with Dimarzios.

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Re: Dimarzio vs. Seymour Duncan

Been around DiMarzio's all my life so I'm just sort of gravitated to them. In some guitars I'll use Duncans though. I put SD Blackouts in pretty much any mahogany guitar and SD Invaders in most alder guitars. However, If I had a mahogany 7 string, I'd be torn between D-Activators and Blackouts. For basswood 7's I'll use a D-Sonic7/Air Norton 7 set. I guess it just depends on what the guitar's made of and what I'll use it for.
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you're right about that. If I'm paying a decent amount of money (they are at least 10$ more than dimarzio), I don't want to be their ad guy. I use that rule for pretty much anything else, hate shirts that have a giant logo or something. Give it to me for free and than we can talk

And I'm yet to find a dimarzio I don't like (have tone zone, paf pro, crunch lab, liquifie and tried a whole bunch of others), while on the other hand the only duncan I had (JB Jr) was a letdown for me. I've had a pair of seth lovers for a few years waiting for the right guitar. Hope they will be better.

So go dimarzio
I just pulled a vintage Seth Lover(neck) out of my late 70s Yamaha SG1500. It was too thick and loud for my mostly high gain habits ...I replaced it with a PAF Classic...DP194...also vintage...it sounds incredible. And for that jazz and blues clean sound, I've heard nothing better yet.
Having said that, in a hollow body guitar or a lighter wooded body, I reckon the SL would be great.
The Yamahas of old have really heavy, high quality mahogany. Which probably added to the "thickness". It was just too muddy.

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