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post #1 of 13 (permalink) Old 01-07-2012, 11:27 PM Thread Starter
 
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Question help with Dimarzio pickup choice.

Hey all. I'm gonna buy a couple of dimarzio pickups soon.
Only need to know what bridge pickup you think is the best, no problem finding a matching neck pickup.

I'm playing and making instrumental rock/metal music so now i've at least described that.

I will need a pickup that is balanced and great for harmonics, divebombs and generally whammy abuse. Also enough gain to do speed runs, cause that's just one of the techniques i use daily, so I can't really skip that part just for buying new pickups.

Anyway, I love the tone of Dimarzio Mo'joe, BUT, there's a but. I'm not sure if it's possible to do speed runs with the pickup, even with a high gain amp. I know it's great for harmonics, legato and is balanced and stuff like that.

Otherwise it's just these choices:
Dimarzio Mo'Joe
Dimarzio Evo2
Dimarzio Super 3
Dimarzio Breed

Anyways, I appreciate if you could give me answers!
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Question Re: help with Dimarzio pickup choice.

And actually Dimarzio D activator i think sound great.

So it will be between these:
Dimarzio Mo'Joe
Dimarzio Evo 2
Dimarzio D activator
Dimarzio Breed
Dimarzio Super 3

I've put them in descending order after preference.
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Only need to know what bridge pickup you think is the best, no problem finding a matching neck pickup.
Evo 2, but those pickups you've menctioned are totally different from each other.
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Re: help with Dimarzio pickup choice.

Stay away from Breed. Go with Super 3 if you need a high-output pickup, or a PAF PRO for the speed runs you mention. D-Activator if you like the EMG tone.
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Anyway, I love the tone of Dimarzio Mo'joe, BUT, there's a but. I'm not sure if it's possible to do speed runs with the pickup, even with a high gain amp
Joe Satriani manages to play guitar pretty well with a Fred which has an even lower output or a Mo'Joe...

That said, I personally find the original Evo to be extremely good at emphasising indvidual notes in a fast passage of music, the Evo 2 is a similiar pickup but for the less intrepid, and the Fred and PAF Pro, whilst both being lower output pickups in modern terms, have similar tone, without swamping the amp.

As Racerevlon said, the Breed is the one that perhaps stands out on your list. It's more a vintage voiced pickup so whilst it will be able to handle what your after, if might not be the first choice on your list...

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Re: help with Dimarzio pickup choice.

So, if i've got it right it's like this:

Evo, Evo2 and Mo'Joe is great pickups for what i'm looking for, am i right ?

Anyway, if I can do speed runs, legato etc etc.. with the Mo'Joe/Paf Joe combination I will probably go with those.

Any objections to what i'm saying ? Something i've gotten wrong?
<----From Norway, so not the best english writer obviously.
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Re: help with Dimarzio pickup choice.

Don't get me wrong. I like Mo'Joe and FRED but I don't think they're going to get you those fluid legato run sounds that you may be looking for. Check the B/M/T curves on each and see what you think...
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Re: help with Dimarzio pickup choice.

aight.

well the B/M/T is like this on the 3 pups:

Evolution - 6/7/6,5 - 404 output
Evo 2 - 6/7,5/6 - 375 output
Mo'Joe - 5/5,5/5 - 320 output
Fred - 5/6/5,5 - 305 output

I don't know like really how these work, I know the difference in an amp, but when it comes to a pickup i don't know how much the differences is.

So tell me which one i should like the most of these for harmonics, legato, speed runs, and playing melodies. It's not really really heavy instrumentals or anything. I just need to know that the pickup can manage to pullout a speed run without sounding too low on the output.
Like I said earlier i love the mo'joe/fred, so I added the fred aswell, since you keep mentioning it :P
generally the question is, can Mo'joe/Fred give all the qualities I asked for, in that case which of these two should I pick.
If not, should I go for the Evo or the Evo2 then ?

Well, sorry to bother you guys so much.
And thanks alot for the answers and stuff like that, helps alot ofc.
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Re: help with Dimarzio pickup choice.

What amp/pedals do you use and how much gain do you run?

If you think a pickup has too little output to manage a "speed run", but works for players like Satriani, then I have to wonder what else you have in your rig.
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Re: help with Dimarzio pickup choice.

The FRED has the most harmonics for shure.

The higher the output the cleaner you need to play.
Any stray noise with jump out even more with highrer output.

THe EVO 1 is very hot and touchy it is brighter than the other pickups you are looking at too.
The EVO 2 is warmer and matches up better with the EVO neck than the EVO 1, not as touchy.

The Mo Joe is a little hotter FRED with less mids, I'd stay with the FRED for better harmonics.
Harmonics come from the mids in a pickup.
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Re: help with Dimarzio pickup choice.

Jono:
I use full gain no matter what when on gain channel, just reducing the output with my volume on guitar if necessary.

Sebastian:
Thanks. I guess ima go with the Fred then if the output difference isn't too big.

So Fred/Paf pro it is.
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Re: help with Dimarzio pickup choice.

I have the FRED / PAF Pro combo in my S540LTD, I love it!
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Re: help with Dimarzio pickup choice.

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The EVO 2 is warmer and matches up better with the EVO neck than the EVO 1, not as touchy.
I have a different point-of-view. The original Evolution DP159 matches the neck version better, but considering that the neck area behaves differently due to string vibration being more intense, the Evo 2 ends up being a more adequate bridge pickup.
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