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post #1 of 10 (permalink) Old 06-08-2006, 09:25 PM Thread Starter
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Humbucker From Hell

Anyone here a HFH pickup in the neck? How is it for you, and what kind of guitar did you install it into? Also, would the Breed bridge pickup be a good match?
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post #2 of 10 (permalink) Old 06-08-2006, 10:21 PM
 
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I've got one I'm waiting to drop in my PGM301. I hope to do it this weekend. I'll be putting in a Tone Zone at the same time. I'll reply to this thread when I get it done.
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post #3 of 10 (permalink) Old 06-09-2006, 11:09 AM
 
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had one in a pgm500. didn't like it. sounded good, but wimpy from switch from a TZ in the bridge. plus the basswood didn't help it much. basswood is really flat as far as eq, so the pickup will determine more of the eq curve. the HFH is supposed to be a single coil with a hums output. which, for the most part, is true. being that basswood is not exactly touted as being a traditional strat wood, the HFH falls short of exhibiting more a strat vibe in the pgm. maybe if the HFH were in either alder or, even better, ash; these attributes would definitely be better exploited. personally, i would drop it into a mahogany body, but would go for an air norton/paf pro with a coil tap to get a single coil tone; depending on fat i wanted the single coil to be. now for basswood, i'd go for the fred, paf pro, paf joe with a coil tap to get the single coil. those would be a fatter single coil, and would still give you the option of a humbucker, where the HFH leaves little option.


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Re: Humbucker From Hell

I have it in my RG1570 mated with a TZ in the bridge... Gilbert setup, basically.

I love it. I have so many guitars I don't mind trying something different in each one to get differnt tones/textures. I really like the HBH because it is high output, very bright and articulate. It's not the fat, fuzzy tone you'd get from a PAF or Norton... it's pretty much as advertised: humbucker output with a single coil sound. However, in my opinion it sounds a touch fatter and rounder than a typical single, which I like.

Unlike Rich, though, I find it to be plenty hot enough to mate well with the TZ. I don't feel any noticable volume or gain drops between the two. If you're going for a Gilbert like tone, the TZ and HBH combo in an RG or PGM is a great way to get there.

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actually, i didn't have a problem with output. my issue with the HFH is the difference of tone between the 2. the HFH is pretty whiny, even for a single coil. whereas the TZ is ballsy. i own several superstrats in s/s/h and s/s/s with hot rails and have no problem with the single coils in them. its more of a single coil in basswood versus a single coil in ash/alder issue. i have an hm strat with 57/62's in the neck and mid and a super3 in the bridge. on a 24 fret basswood axe, a single coil thins out ALOT. still sounds good, but it's not going to be as fat as a single coil in a 21/22 fret ash/alder axe. see my point? to come close to getting that type of tone, a fatter humbucker that is tapped will better approximate the loss of bass due to pickup placement and wood. basically, what it comes down to is all of the variables. not to say that the HFH is a bad pickup, because its not. just depending what you put it into "will" dictate how true a single coil sound it will produce.


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post #6 of 10 (permalink) Old 06-09-2006, 02:52 PM Thread Starter
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Well I guess this all depends on what you're wanting from a pickup, so people will have different opinions. If you're playing straight-up metal, I can imagine that the HFH isn't something you'd want, but from what I can tell (from sound clips, etc) the HFH sounds great. One thing though, I wouldn't be putting it in a basswood body, it'll either be a maple neck thru body with alder wings, or, if the deal comes off, a paduak bodied Washburn N4.

I want a pickup that gives a kinda Strat tone in the neck, one that cleans up nicely and that the notes of chords don't mush together. The HFH seems like the perfect solution. I am going for versatility, so a guitar that can do clean as well as dirty is what's needed from just two pickups. Both guitars I'm thinking of have twin 'buckers and no coil tap.

Thanks for the replies so far, this is interesting.
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I have a 1570 with an EVO/HFH combination. I use the HFH almost exclusively for clean stuff. IMO, the pickup is perfect for this task even in basswood. It just has a very vibrant and alive sound. That's the best way I can explain it. I will say that I don't like the way it sounds split, though. I'm pretty sure that the stock S1 single coil doesn't help my situation.
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Actually, the Duncan 59 in the neck of the N4 is a nice sounding pickup. I have one in the neck of my Hamer Diablo and it is a very open sounding humbucker. It's not midrangey and thick like an Air Norton or similar.

I've had a HFH in a RG, it was more like a bright, vintage-y humbucker to me than a single coil although it had some sc qualities. I don't think the difference between the '59 and the HFH will be that great, the '59 is already a great sounding pickup, just has a little more lows and output. If the N4 has a Bill Lawrence "USA" L500-L, I would change that for a real Bill Lawrence L500-L from Bill and Becky at www.billlawrence.com.

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Originally Posted by southpaw_lefty
I will say that I don't like the way it sounds split, though. I'm pretty sure that the stock S1 single coil doesn't help my situation.
Probably due to the fact that as a humbucker it is only wound to 5.32, when you split it, it's a pretty wimpy single coil!
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Thanks for the info, rgr. BTW, I already have an L500-L that I bought in 1992. I like it for metal, but it is a very limited sounding pickup. It's just sat around doing nothing anyway, so maybe I can find a home for it someday.
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Check your PM.
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