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post #1 of 18 (permalink) Old 08-26-2010, 01:11 PM Thread Starter
 
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Muddy Les Paul. Clear pickups?

My Les Paul Studio has a ring of dirt and mud around it's tone. Even with new strings, I can't get it to sound either not muddy (neck pickup) or too harsh (bridge pickup). My Strat is not muddy like this at all, but it does have single coils.

I'm thinking new pickups. What are some pickups that are very clear? I use a GT-10 through a VOX AC30. With the Strat, it gives me a very nice clear tone.

I'm looking at Dimarzios or Seymour Duncans, but I am open to suggestions. I'd like them to be around $100~per pickup.
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Re: Muddy Les Paul. Clear pickups?

What are the current pickups in the Studio?

And, come to think of it, what's in the Strat?

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What are the current pickups in the Studio?

And, come to think of it, what's in the Strat?

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Les Paul has stock 490R and 498T's. Strat pickups are also stock (no idea the model).
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I hate those 4XX pickups Gibson uses. If you want to stay Gibson give the 57 Classics a shot, otherwise it's hard to go wrong with a JB/59 or JB/Jazz from Duncan. If you want the best look into WCR. They are expensive but worth it.
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Re: Muddy Les Paul. Clear pickups?

Try a Duncan Custom in the bridge and a Pearly Gates or '59 in the neck.

Smokin combo for a LP
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I have a cheap pearly gates if you want to check it out
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Re: Muddy Les Paul. Clear pickups?

dimarzio 36th PAF are also a decent choice and they are cheaper than SD.
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57 Classics are amazing. DiMarzio PAF Pros are nice and clear too.
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Re: Muddy Les Paul. Clear pickups?

Your situation sounds like the classic situation when you switch between single coils and humbuckers. If you are listening to them through the same patches in the GT, they will sound significantly different. I don't have the GT, but I have the same issue when I play through my GNX. On the GNX, I simply created different patches to compensate for the humbucker sound. I have separate banks of patches for the strat and another bank for the humbuckers. The GNX also has a pickup compensation switch where you can make a humbucker sound like a single coil. I'm sure the GT has the same options.
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Re: Muddy Les Paul. Clear pickups?

I have a Les Paul with Suhr Doug Aldrich pickups, and I'd recommend them to anyone. Probably my favorite pickups that I've tried they can be really nasty, and clean up really well. You can get them for $104 on **** all day, and if you look around online for less than $100 each.
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I hate those 4XX pickups Gibson uses. If you want to stay Gibson give the 57 Classics a shot, otherwise it's hard to go wrong with a JB/59 or JB/Jazz from Duncan. If you want the best look into WCR. They are expensive but worth it.
I could have written that whole sentence myself. 57's are nice, but expensive and if i had to shell out that much i'd go WCR Darburst/Godwood Combo. I also like the Burstbuckers in my 59. I also don't think you can compare anything you will put in there to the sound of the Strat.
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Les Paul has stock 490R and 498T's. Strat pickups are also stock (no idea the model).
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I hate those 4XX pickups Gibson uses. . . .
The 490/498 combo is what I have in my '09 Studio. I think they sound great but I grant that elcid has listened to more pickups than I have. I'm playing them straight into a JSX Mini Colossal tube amp and I get clear tones with the proper knob settings. I have played the Burstbuckers and thought they gave more of a punch, bite, or distortion than the 4XX pickups.

I'd try lespauled's suggestion before swapping pups, and then I'd second the DiMarzio PAF recommendations. Good luck!

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Bare knuckle male some great pickups.
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Go for a low power magnet like an AlNiCO II, that should help clear things up.
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I could have written that whole sentence myself. 57's are nice, but expensive and if i had to shell out that much i'd go WCR Darburst/Godwood Combo. I also like the Burstbuckers in my 59. I also don't think you can compare anything you will put in there to the sound of the Strat.
I have a Crossroads/Darkburst in my LP Classic, and a set of Crossroads in my Standard. I tried the American Steeles and Fillmores too. I really want to check out the BettSet. Jim makes incredible pickups, and just started making LP and Strat clones that look good, but like every other clone maker, he doesn;t use Nitro finishes. I put a set of his knobs and pots in one of my LPs and I've used the RS Kits stuff before too. It's good, but possibly the biggest scam in the guitar world.
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