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post #1 of 12 (permalink) Old 07-23-2013, 03:06 PM Thread Starter
 
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need neck pup for late 70s early 80s hard rock heavy metal

Hello
And thank you for your time.

I need help at choosing a neck pick up.
I mailed like three time DiMarzio about choosing a neck pup, i just can't deside and thats why I need your help and I hope this post will help me. Also sorry about my English it's not my native language.
First of all my gear is an Ibanez RG350DX and my amp a VOX VT40+ without using any pedals or anything like this. I changed the bridge pup into a Evo 2 recently and it's not exactly what I am looking for but I won't change it for now. But there is going a Super Distortion eventualy in the future. So what I am saying is that I want a neck pup that is going to work well with a Super Distortion but works somehow well with the Evo 2 too cause i dont know when i will have the money to change the Evo 2. If it doesnt match with the Evo 2 i doesnt matter but i would be glad if it did so I won't be in a hurry about change it and have my time to gather the money for the Super Distortion.
The sound I am looking for is an late 70s early 80s hard rock heavy metal sound. Some sounds I realy like are, Randy Rhoads on the Diary Of A Madman album, Malmsteen's sound on Marching Out and Van Halen's sound on the Van Halen album.
If I try to describe it somehow, I would say a sound that's everywhere, all around, like its flying with 200 kmh and killing people by penetrating them , agressive but not the new metalcore agressive, the old school hard rock agressive. I dont know the words to describe it any further xaxa.

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Re: need neck pup for late 70s early 80s hard rock heavy metal

DiMarzio PAF Pro with a coil split switch.
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Re: need neck pup for late 70s early 80s hard rock heavy metal

Hey Mike, I think your problem AND solution lie in your amp. The 40+ is capable of such an amazingly wide array of tones, FX, and models that it can be overwhelming. I think that the sound your looking for is in your amp....... not in a set of pickups. I think the best choice for a bridge pickup AND the music you looking to play is the EVO2 you already have. It is very mid heavy with even response on the high and low end. Midrange and maybe high mids is where the secret "diary" sound is. Anything EVH is very mid heavy.

I think the Super Distortion is a step in the wrong direction with it's boosted low end. If you CAN'T find your sound with the EVO2, I'd look more into the Gravity Storm or Dominion sets. They're both more in line with your needs.

Again, the biggest thing is to spend a LOT more time experimenting with your amp. It can do what you want.
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Re: need neck pup for late 70s early 80s hard rock heavy metal

PAF Pro is the ****!
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Re: need neck pup for late 70s early 80s hard rock heavy metal

Thank you for your response RGT.
the main question was about the neck pick up but the brisge interested me to just not for now does the paf pro do a good combo with the evo 2?

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I think your problem AND solution lie in your amp. The 40+ is capable of such an amazingly wide array of tones, FX, and models that it can be overwhelming.
well its true i never took the time to experiment with my amp in depth but there are just to many knobs xaxaxa. no ok i am just kidding i realy didnt take the time but i find sounds wich are comfortable playing with but i dont realy want one of them to be my main sound and then i find sounds with wich its a bit harder to play but sound good but still not "the sound" i want i will try to add any efect on some chanel it might do the trick

i already ordered the evolution neck about 3 weeks ago and changed my mind before a couple days and i will cancel the order and probably get the paf pro i am just afraid about it cause of the low output its not like i want a high gain sound its just i dont have any expirience with pick ups and dont know how much gain 300 output is but i think for the neck position it will work
i thought about the paf pro for the bridge too before i changed to the evo2 but 300 output by judging by the output lvls of the others pick ups i think is to low for bridge for hard rock/ heavy metal
tell me if i am wrong at something i am still young and i dont know much
thnk you for your time
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Re: need neck pup for late 70s early 80s hard rock heavy metal

Lower the Evo 2 a little so its not so close to the strings. That'll lower its output a bit which will help.

Put a PAF Pro in the neck, that'll go nicely with the Evo 2, and give you the sort of tones you want.

Use the UK Rock SPL or CST models to get your base sound. Either of those should do what you want. If you aren't able to get quite enough crunch then add the TUBE OD to the patch, and adjust to taste. This stuff should most definitely get you where you want.

Always set the EQ controls to twelve o'clock first and tweak from there. Don't pay attention to where the knobs sit and where you think they should sit. Use your ears to find your sound. As a general rule don't scoop the mids, as the sounds you are looking for aren't mid scooped, they are boosted. But again, use your ears to work out what you like. You'll get there.
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Re: need neck pup for late 70s early 80s hard rock heavy metal

the evo2 is already prety low, i am already convinced that my amp setings are the problem and i will expiriment with them the moment i go home and order a paf pro tomorow and hope it will come soon thank you for your help guys
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did Eddie or Randy ever use a neck pickup??
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did Eddie or Randy ever use a neck pickup??
Eddie uses them in his solos iirc. I know most heavy metal guitarists dont really use anything besides their bridge pup though.
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Eddie uses them in his solos iirc. I know most heavy metal guitarists dont really use anything besides their bridge pup though.
Maybe later in his career, but all the stuff that made him famous was with a single humbucker in the bridge.
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did Eddie or Randy ever use a neck pickup??
not that I'm aware of...........
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Re: need neck pup for late 70s early 80s hard rock heavy metal

Dimarzio Super2 or 3.
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