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post #1 of 11 (permalink) Old 03-19-2012, 06:37 AM Thread Starter
 
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Need pickup suggestion for SD in J-custom (for 80's metal)

Recently I scored a very nice J-custom, model RG8420ZD. It has a Seymour Duncan Custom 5 TB-14 in the bridge. Body is mahogany (flamed maple top) and rosewood fretboard.

The SD TB-14 is nice pickup, but I want a bit more agression in my sound. I'm really into 80's metal (think of Metallica, Slayer, King Diamond etc.). My amp is a Soldano Avenger.

This guitar is only suited for passive pickups, so EMG's do not fit. I'm not looking for overpowered pickups like the X2N or Invader. My goal is to have an agressive attack, yet tight and articulate. The SD TB-14 gets me close (in my gear), but I need that little bit extra. What passive pickup do you recommend?

I was thinking Duncan Distortion, JB or the ALternative 8 SH-15? Suggestions are much appreciated.

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post #2 of 11 (permalink) Old 03-19-2012, 11:06 AM
 
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Re: Need pickup suggestion for SD in J-custom (for 80's metal)

Considering the different routing for Seymour Duncan pickups, I'd seriously consider BKP's instead.
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Considering the different routing for Seymour Duncan pickups, I'd seriously consider BKP's instead.
They are more expensive, but certainly an option. Which one would you pick?
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The Duncan JB's are great pups especially for your application. In fact, a lot of the music influences you described were created/recorded using JB's - that was hands down the pup of choice for 80's heavy music. I've got them in bridge position on 2 vintage 80's Kramers and I love them for that application. They are a pretty versatile pup in that they are quite aggressive through a heavy distortion rig but surprisingly quite clean when you want them to be. For myself, I found they were the best compromise between these two contrasting personalities. There are certainly much heavier, more aggressive pups out there but I feel their application is more limited to a purely heavy distorted style/sound. If you wanna do ANY clean work, you need some versatility and the JB has it. It is a little muddier than my EVO's in other guitars, but has that killer bottom end crunch the EVO lacks. And personally, I like the warmer cleans it produces.

Besides which Seymour is a really cool dude and continues to wind pups himself. You can call him up & tell him the sound you're going for and he will happily custom wind you a pup to your specs without gouging your wallet. Not many down to earth craftsman like him in the biz these days. I'm lucky enough to live in Santa Barbara & have the opportunity to deal with him directly & he really is a super nice guy.

For what its worth! Best of luck in your search.

Rock on dude!
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Re: Need pickup suggestion for SD in J-custom (for 80's metal)

Full shred. more agressive but still controlable and articulate. imo better then the SD distortion.

Bare knuckels are also good, i do have a problem with their consistencie though.
I bought 2 calibrated sets of Nailbombs (same specs) but they dont sound alike.

(Fitted both sets in the same guitar ,same set up, and same electronics)
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Re: Need pickup suggestion for SD in J-custom (for 80's metal)

Dimarzio Deactivator maybe?
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post #7 of 11 (permalink) Old 03-19-2012, 05:33 PM
 
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They are more expensive, but certainly an option. Which one would you pick?
Not for someone with J-Customs in their arsenal!

I'm in the process of buying Painkillers for my RG550. They appear to be similar to Evolutions. My 8570 will remain with Evo 2 / True Velvet / Evolution.
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Re: Need pickup suggestion for SD in J-custom (for 80's metal)

That guy was right, in that a vast majority of 80's guitars were JB or JBJ equipped. The Distortion is essentially a JB with a ceramic magnet instead of alnico. Distortions are great for metal, but dont clean up as nice as a JB.

Id say a JB, or a Screamin Demon. I also know a guy that custom winds pickups (scatterwound) that are very similar to the DiMartini RTM's, for a fraction of the price. PM me if you want to know more. Ive got one and its 80's metal mania!!
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Oh! Speaking of Screamin Demon... I've got one of those in the neck position with a JB bridge & love the combo!
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Re: Need pickup suggestion for SD in J-custom (for 80's metal)

Thanks for all he input. Just to share my experience here, I tried the seymour duncan distortion and the BKP painkiller. The SD distortion is a nice pickup, has that aggressive bite going. It really is very good for my type of metal. Only downside is that it is a bit too much on the treble side. All in all, a good reference pickup for me. The BKP painkiller also has that aggressive bite but is more balanced to my ears. Just a tad smoother on the highs, which makes it my favorite so far.
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post #11 of 11 (permalink) Old 04-08-2012, 12:56 PM
 
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Re: Need pickup suggestion for SD in J-custom (for 80's metal)

If you think Distortion a bit too trebly, you should try the TB5 Duncan Custom..! My favorite hi-output duncan so far. Instead of buying a new pickup you can just put ceramic magnet in your TB14 to turn it into a TB5.
Compared to distortion it has less sizzle or 'hair'. It definitely sound more 'heavy' with its beefy mids and thick, very tight bass.

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