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post #1 of 8 (permalink) Old 01-17-2004, 12:39 AM Thread Starter
 
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Original IBZUSA pups on 540 guitars?

Anybody know the equivalent DiMarzio (or closest model) to this guy? Lower resistance than an F1 or F2 (it's 15k ohms), so I think it may be a PAF type, But I dunno. If nobody here knows, I'll ask DiMarzio.
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post #2 of 8 (permalink) Old 01-17-2004, 06:02 PM
 
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Somewhere, either on the Dimarzio site or some other related site there's a comparison. The Original IBZUSA doesn't match directly to anything, whereas some others are pretty close, and the F3 -IS- the Super 3 from what I understand.

But 15k is not like a PAF, those range from the high 7's to the mid 8's. I sure wish I could remember what the comparison was, but I will say that the original IBZUSA is the least like another Dimarzio. I remember reading it saying "It's not really like that pickup." Whereas the other comparisons I could understand.
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Well I just checked on the Dimarzio site and it's under FAQ, in the sections about OEM and endorser models. It doesn't mention the original. Maybe that's why I couldn't remember! It puts the F2 close to the tone zone and I think that's way off. Anyway, good luck. If I had to compare it I would say it's like a Breed meets a Norton. But that's just me. I don't think it's a "dual resonance" pickup so it doesn't have the complex midrange that those do. The mids are sort of one dimensional, and the peak is set in an awkward place. A little higher and it would be a screamer, and a little lower and it would be fat and rich sounding. I like to think of it as "versatile " rather than "plain sounding " I think I've done a good job psyching myself out, too because I still have 4 guitars with them that I want to keep looking "stock". Remarkably, as far as I can tell the ones in my Maxxas are the same, even though Maxxas literature claims they are specially designed. I don't even think there's a difference between the neck and bridge model, and it sounds really great in the neck position of the Maxxas. I have played with different bridge pickups in there but I haven't touched the neck. If you have the chance, and a hot bridge pickup, you might try it in the neck. It seems too hot but if its backed away from the strings a little its a great sound.
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Yeah, I had checked there first; I have that page bookmarked. I wonder what it is...
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I measured the resistance on both my 750's w/ F2's...

one of them the pups were both around 17.5k ohms to about 18K.

one the other one, the bridge one is 18.6k ohms and the neck is 5.4M ohms... seems kind of odd... any ideas?

bear in mind these tests were done by connecting the meter to a cable plugged into the output, so switches and pots could have interfered... it just seems that the neck value on the one is WAY out of whack...

I also don't agree with the F2 being like a TZ... they have almost a Duncan JB or a hot PAF style pup...
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I had a discussion with the Dimarzio help line a few years ago and kept the email...

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F2 doesn't closely resemble anything in our standard line. The closest resemblance is to the Double Whammy and the Tone Zone in terms of output, although the sound is more cutting on the high end and tighter on the bottom.

(The F4) is very similar to the PAF (DP103), with a little more bass and less treble
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i love IBZ pickups, all of them. they sound so great!

Frank (or any who knows): what is a "dual-resonance" pickup?
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i love IBZ pickups, all of them. they sound so great!

Frank (or any who knows): what is a "dual-resonance" pickup?
Those pups have coils that are wound differently, so the resonances are at different frequencies. So instead of one big response peak, you get 2, to either emphasize different frequency ranges (if they're really different), or make one wider one (if they're pretty close).
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