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post #31 of 53 (permalink) Old 09-02-2013, 02:21 PM
 
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Re: Pickups for best/easiest artificial harmonics?

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Yeah and the other 30% from God, electronics have nothing to do with sound.
We should stop buying pups, amps, effects etc.
Everybody who say that usually has a terrible tone, they should exchange their hands and bodies.
People use the "tone comes from the hands myth" as an excuse and to dismiss their inability to operate the equipment they purchased.
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Re: Pickups for best/easiest artificial harmonics?

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Yeah and the other 30% from God, electronics have nothing to do with sound.
We should stop buying pups, amps, effects etc.
Everybody who say that usually has a terrible tone, they should exchange their hands and bodies.
If you happen to find a service that does these kinds of exchanges, you should have them exchange your personality for a better one.
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If you happen to find a service that does these kinds of exchanges, you should have them exchange your personality for a better one.
But my personality is MY choice.
And it has different sides like I have one to deal with smart people and another one to deal with brainless ones.
Being brainless is not a choice, you were born that way and can't change it.
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People use the "tone comes from the hands myth" as an excuse and to dismiss their inability to operate the equipment they purchased.
Good tone does come from the hands. The electronics just help out.
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Good tone does come from the hands. The electronics just help out.
Sorry, but unless you mean that good tone comes from technique the hands deliver, you're wrong.
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Sorry, but unless you mean that good tone comes from technique the hands deliver, you're wrong.
Ugh..

Of course that's what that means. You just don't put your hands on a neck and expect it to make a sound.
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Ugh..

Of course that's what that means. You just don't put your hands on a neck and expect it to make a sound.
Then it's better stated that tone comes from, in part, technique, not hands.
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Re: Pickups for best/easiest artificial harmonics?

it's hard to answer
it depends on you wood guitar body too
i like very much my sh6
sh4
emg 85
dimarzio fred is good but not BIG
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post #39 of 53 (permalink) Old 11-10-2017, 02:02 PM
 
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Re: Pickups for best/easiest artificial harmonics?

This is my question on pinch harmonics. I have an ibanez rg 570, basswood body, maple neck with bubinga, rosewood fingerboard and Edge trem. The guitar came with a dimarzio tone zone in the bridge. The pinch harmonics worked well with that but the low end was a little too flubby for me.

I replaced the tone zone with a duncan distortion. The pickup has great high output and tone, but it's much more difficult to get a wide variety of squealing pinch harmonics and when I do pinch harmonics they don't and they revert back to the natural string . The pinch harmonics die out and don't sustain.

Is it the pickup, the basswood body, or? If you think it's the pickup, what other pickups would you recommend for zakk Wylde screamin pinch harmonics? I use them a lot.

Also, my technique is good.

I also have an ibanez rgt42fm with stock inf2 pickup in the bridge position. It's a rather low gain pickup and doesn't sound nearly as good as the duncan distortion but I can get screamin harmonics all day long.

I have a problem with the rgt because the trem system isn't very good and doesn't stay in tune. That's why I switched to the rg550 with the edge trem system.

Back to the problem with my rg550 and problem with pinch harmonics. Is it the pickup, guitar or ?

Please let me know your thoughts and ideas.
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post #40 of 53 (permalink) Old 11-11-2017, 04:09 AM
 
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Re: Pickups for best/easiest artificial harmonics?

You posted in few threads and i will try to give you answer to all.

Every part of guitar is affecting sound. Some more, some less.

So pickup and body both are affecting harmonics.

IIRC you said that ToneZone had good harmonics, so body can produce them, meaning you should change SD Distortion.
( In other guitar SD Distortin could have more harmonics).

From my experience, Dimarzio X2n, and SD Invader have great harmonics, but if you like Zak Wilde's tone you should try EMG 81.
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post #41 of 53 (permalink) Old 11-11-2017, 02:03 PM
 
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Re: Pickups for best/easiest artificial harmonics?

Thanx for your response.

The X2N and Invader have been mentioned to me.

The EMG's are highly recommended as well.

I also received a message that stated that they had the same problem with the duncan distortion.

On the pickup hunt I go!
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Re: Pickups for best/easiest artificial harmonics?

Put your tone zone back in, wire in a 0.001uf capacitor in between the red hot wire and the pickup selector and see how you go. The capacitor will filter out the low end frequencies a bit, giving you less mud.

But before you try that, lower the bass side a bit more, and raise the E-A-D pole pieces accordingly. That’ll make those strings more focussed too. Also try swapping the stock pole pieces with the hex head type if you can pull some out of another pickup, or alternatively order the screws. From memory they are 5-40 1/2” hex head. Cost you maybe a couple dollars.
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Re: Pickups for best/easiest artificial harmonics?

Thanx for your response!

I'll give all you mentioned a try.

Good luck to me!
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post #44 of 53 (permalink) Old 11-12-2017, 02:47 PM
 
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Re: Pickups for best/easiest artificial harmonics?

I've checked out the 0.001uf capacitors and there are several different types.

What voltage capacitor should I use?

Disc or box?

Ceramic, polyester, polypropylene, mylar film, polyester film?

Multi layrer?

1000pf, 1nf, 102, 102j, 102k, 2A?

High voltage?

Please let me know and thanx again.
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post #45 of 53 (permalink) Old 11-13-2017, 10:59 AM
 
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Re: Pickups for best/easiest artificial harmonics?

No one's mentioned the one thing that, in my experience, has a huge effect on my ability to hit artificial harmonics from one guitar to the next. I have 15 guitars currently (I know it's ridiculous). Many of them are very similar--basswood bodies, Evolution humbuckers, 24 frets, Edge bridges.

What I've discovered is that a really good fret level and nearly perfect intonation make a bigger difference than higher output pickups. The same guitar that could barely eek out a little chirp when I bought it is now a squealing monster after a truly great setup.
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