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post #1 of 53 (permalink) Old 03-27-2013, 05:32 AM Thread Starter
 
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Pickups for best/easiest artificial harmonics?

Just wondering what you all have found makes for the best and/or easiest artificial harmonics in the bridge position?

I've been working on something new with a lot of them and have been learning it on one of my UCGR's with an IBZUSA F2 in the bridge. I then moved over to a mahogany JC with a Norton in the bridge and I had a much harder time hitting the harmonics. Wondering if it was me or the guitar, I then picked up a Jem with PAF Pros. They were a bit easier to hit, but when I went back to the guitar with the F2, it was just much easier and the harmonics I was getting were really great.

It seems like the F2 just makes stupid good harmonics. What else have any of you found works well? How much of this might be the wood and how much is the pickups?
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Any pickup with a decent amount of compression makes it easier. The F2 has a fairly high resistance, so that's why it's easier. The higher the resistance the more compressed a pickup is.

I've found that the EVH Frankenstein is fantastic for pulling off artificial harmonics. It's not an overly high output pickup, but the reasonable amoun lt of resistance must make it easier to pull them off. Other high output pickups with a decent amount of resistance should be good for them too.
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Thanks, I didn't know that.

It makes sense because I've heard the F2 compared with a Tone Zone, which has pretty high resistance.
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Re: Pickups for best/easiest artificial harmonics?

I guess the EVO2, EVO, FRED and Mo'Joe will give you great harmonics.

But I also found that the Paf Joe (neck pickup) gives awesome harmonics in neck position but it is absolutely not a compressed pup (less than 10kohm impedance)
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I think technique is more important, but that said, It's easier with high output pickups in my experience, but man, High Output Active pups such as EMG 81, 85, and the Duncan Metal Blackouts, etc, work really well. I can get squels as I call them just all over the fretboard with little effort, but I used to play with the Duncan Pearly Gates on a LP that screamed too and it had low output. But, it also seems that loads of mids seem to help to me. Maybe I'm wrong. I'm not a sound expert.. Just use what sounds right I guess, but the other guys like Phantom know there stuff.. Just my two pence .. :-)
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Re: Pickups for best/easiest artificial harmonics?

Hey Stephen.
Interesting you talk about Compression. I think of it as Sustain. I wonder / does more compression in a pickup = more sustain?

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Any pickup with a decent amount of compression makes it easier. The F2 has a fairly high resistance, so that's why it's easier. The higher the resistance the more compressed a pickup is.

I've found that the EVH Frankenstein is fantastic for pulling off artificial harmonics. It's not an overly high output pickup, but the reasonable amoun lt of resistance must make it easier to pull them off. Other high output pickups with a decent amount of resistance should be good for them too.
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I think technique is more important, but that said, It's easier with high output pickups in my experience, but man, High Output Active pups such as EMG 81, 85, and the Duncan Metal Blackouts, etc, work really well. I can get squels as I call them just all over the fretboard with little effort, but I used to play with the Duncan Pearly Gates on a LP that screamed too and it had low output. But, it also seems that loads of mids seem to help to me. Maybe I'm wrong. I'm not a sound expert.. Just use what sounds right I guess, but the other guys like Phantom know there stuff.. Just my two pence .. :-)
Interesting that you say that. Reb Beach has always been an EMG user, yet when he played in Dokken he said he had to have a guitar made with DiMarzios (not sure which pickups) because he needed them to get all the George Lynch harmonics.
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Resistance helps, but there are other factors too, like the EQ as a result of the wind of the pickup, etc. I think resistance is the big thing, but fact is some pickups just do a great job of it even with lower resistance. The mids may have something to do with it.
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Re: Pickups for best/easiest artificial harmonics?

Hey Jesse, good question........

The Tone Zone and F2 are the best that I own, but in reality, The Duncan Custom or JB are even easier to hit pinch harmonics on. I don't know why, but they've always been the easiest for me.
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That's right, the JB and Custom are seriously good for this stuff and more. The Custom is an amazing pickup. One of my favourites right now.
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Well, that's interesting that Reb would say that.. I know if you listen to some of the metal guys such as Zakk Wylde, etc, you'll hear loads of harmonics. You can really make them scream with EMG's. I can at least and so can Zakk. He's the knig of Squeals..hehe..

I can usually get a squeal out of anything though that is loud enough it seems. Maybe just because I grew up listening to Zz Top, etc, and so I started playing that way. I use them a lot. I like that sound..
Good luck man..
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Interesting that you say that. Reb Beach has always been an EMG user, yet when he played in Dokken he said he had to have a guitar made with DiMarzios (not sure which pickups) because he needed them to get all the George Lynch harmonics.
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Re: Pickups for best/easiest artificial harmonics?

I have not found any electric guitar that i couldn't get harmonics from...
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Just wondering what you all have found makes for the best and/or easiest artificial harmonics in the bridge position?
Super 3 but I'd rather have an Evo 2 in my JC.
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Hey Jesse, good question........

The Tone Zone and F2 are the best that I own, but in reality, The Duncan Custom or JB are even easier to hit pinch harmonics on. I don't know why, but they've always been the easiest for me.
I have a JB in my Herc 540P. I'll have to mess around with that. All the Dokken stuff is a JB.
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Yeah, I agree. That's why I said it's technique mostly, but having cool pups does help make it scream louder and last longer, etc,..
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