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post #1 of 9 (permalink) Old 10-19-2004, 02:36 PM Thread Starter
 
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Replacement Pickups for a baritone

I've recently acquired a new Epiphone baritone Les Paul (the worn brown one!), which is my first Baritone guitar. I usually load my other guitars with the DiMarzio An/Tz combo & am wondering of a good combo I can load into the 'Paul that will give me a similar setup, cos I know some Baritone players like to use specialised Pickups, i.e. DiMarzio's 'drop sonic' (is this even true???!!!???) Any advice would be much appreciated - cheers!!!
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post #2 of 9 (permalink) Old 10-19-2004, 03:11 PM
 
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With drop-tuned instruments, you want to avoid pickups that are too hot. The heavier strings and wider string excursion can garble the sound if your pickup is too hot. Go for something with low- to medium-output... the key thing you'll be after is clarity and good note/string separation.

Maybe try the Air Norton in the bridge and put something like a PAF Pro in the neck.
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Not to sound like a Bartolini commercial, but they have excellent seperation and clarity. They can be pricey, but the results are very nice in regular scale 6's and 7's. I have to admit I don't have a baritone, but I believe the Barts would shine in that application.
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I've tried an AN in the bridge and I couldn't stand it. I'm not saying Darren is wrong, I don't know if he's tried it. But it sounded very weak and whiney. The low magnetic pull and reduced output would make it suitable for a drop tuned guitar, but I just think the tone will be bad.

The Bartolinis are my clear choice as well. Any time you want more clarity and clean low end Bartolini will amaze you. They are the choice of many high end manufacturers making extended range instruments today. That's not to say they can't sound traditional either, they do. They aren't all hi-fi "superpickups" but they have the clarity that other manufacturers can't reproduce without sounding thin or harsh. A 1D01 in the neck and 1D04 in the bridge would be great. Otherwise any of the ZBS's would be awesome. You can get nickel or gold covers on those. Maybe a ZBS50 neck and ZBS70 bridge
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I'm mainly just going by Jim Soloway's audio samples of him playing one of his guitars equipped with an AN7 in the bridge and a PAF7 in the neck. The clarity was startling. Dunno what they sound like in higher-gain situations, because Jim isn't a high-gain type of player.

But my other advice about going with low or medium output also stems from email discussions i've had with Tom Anderson.
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I haven't heard any of Jim's samples, but they would be the perfect thing to listen to, since he uses a long scale. He also uses hollow ash backs a lot with bolt necks too, and this LP is bound to be more nasal and flat acoustically. I had tried the AN/bridge in a solidbody, and it proved to me why it's a good neck pickup! The bright mids and weak low end are perfect for the neck position. Then again, I usually go for a weaker low end on 7-string pups so maybe there's some merit to it. But also, the AN7 is a different pickup altogether. I was using the AN6.
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I have a Humbucker From Hell (neck) and PAF Pro (bridge) in my MMM1. Works for me.
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I am trying to ensure I still have alot of clarity on my clean sounds with it, as alot of the music I write has clean passages - but I still like to ensure I get some dirty sounds (which I know comes down to my 'dirty' channel), but 'clean' is a major factor...

Bartolinis - where's the best place to order these online, & what do they cost (not that it really matters - well, it does & it doesn't!) Do they require any additional routing? are they 'active' or 'passive' pickups?

Thanks to everyone who has responded & anyone who can clear any of the above up for me...
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I am trying to ensure I still have alot of clarity on my clean sounds with it, as alot of the music I write has clean passages - but I still like to ensure I get some dirty sounds (which I know comes down to my 'dirty' channel), but 'clean' is a major factor...

Bartolinis - where's the best place to order these online, & what do they cost (not that it really matters - well, it does & it doesn't!) Do they require any additional routing? are they 'active' or 'passive' pickups?

Thanks to everyone who has responded & anyone who can clear any of the above up for me...
I think you can order them from anywhere that stocks the Bartolini bass pups. Thats what I hope to do if/when I get mine! They have some active pups and some passive. The PBF and ZBS are deffinately passive. Some of the older/special ordered ones are active. No, I don't think additional routing is nessecary (I am not sure whether an LP could hold a battery! )
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