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post #1 of 22 (permalink) Old 06-24-2012, 02:54 AM Thread Starter
 
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Trouble hearing the difference between pickups

I've been watching review videos where they do comparisons, and I can't really hear the difference.

For example, Evo vs. Fred:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zBW9I6UCuBY

What should I be listening for?
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post #2 of 22 (permalink) Old 06-24-2012, 03:46 AM
 
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Re: Trouble hearing the difference between pickups

It is going to be extremely hard to hear different pickup's tonal characteristics in YouTube videos. You really need to try them if you can. Remember that DiMarzio and Seymour Duncan both offer exchange policies. If you don't like what you are hearing from your new pickup you can typically swap within 30 days of purchase.
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Re: Trouble hearing the difference between pickups

On a quick listen on my iPhone (not the best way to listen) I could hear that the Evo was hotter and more compressed. It was tighter sounding than the Fred, which is a little looser and warmer sounding. The Fred isn't as high an output pickup compared to the Evo.
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Re: Trouble hearing the difference between pickups

What Tone are you after?
Warm, Hot, lots of Bass?
Who's tone do you like?
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Re: Trouble hearing the difference between pickups

because theres very tiny difference. ....same goes with adding a big 40.00 sustain block ..theres a difference but very minor.
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because theres very tiny difference. ....same goes with adding a big 40.00 sustain block ..theres a difference but very minor.
Depending on what you are using, I'd say no. There was a huge difference when I swapped a V2 humbucker with a Tone Zone or a Super Distortion. The brass block on my Edge made a huge difference compared to stock.
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because theres very tiny difference. ....same goes with adding a big 40.00 sustain block ..theres a difference but very minor.
Maybe on an Edge III, but not on the original Edge I put one on.



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I have a stock block on my Schaller,probably a 32 or something,not sure .and i considered going all out & getting the L brass block but for like 45.00,which i dont have I decided agaianst it,for now anyway and I will say once ya get into the 50.00 & Up^ pickups,there is an improvement compared to stock. / But as for Those 50.00 & up pickups compared to each other, the difference is very subtle.
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and I will say once ya get into the 50.00 & Up^ pickups,there is an improvement compared to stock. / But as for Those 50.00 & up pickups compared to each other, the difference is very subtle.
That is absolute BS!
Every one of my Ibbies has $50.00+ DiMarzios of various combos. I put various combos in for a reason--they sound very different.
Maybe to your ears there is no noticeable difference, but those of us that have been playing and modifying guitars a decade or so before you born--we can certainly tell the differences.
Just because you can't hear it, is not reason to post that rubbish.



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I have a stock block on my Schaller,probably a 32 or something,not sure .and i considered going all out & getting the L brass block but for like 45.00,which i dont have I decided agaianst it,for now anyway and I will say once ya get into the 50.00 & Up^ pickups,there is an improvement compared to stock. / But as for Those 50.00 & up pickups compared to each other, the difference is very subtle.
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That is absolute BS!
Every one of my Ibbies has $50.00+ DiMarzios of various combos. I put various combos in for a reason--they sound very different.
Maybe to your ears there is no noticeable difference, but those of us that have been playing and modifying guitars a decade or so before you born--we can certainly tell the differences.
Just because you can't hear it, is not reason to post that rubbish.
+1

There is definitely a difference. If you are playing through a crappy little practice amp or similar, then yes, you wouldn't notice much difference. Through something half-decent and you'll definitely notice.
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That is absolute BS!
Every one of my Ibbies has $50.00+ DiMarzios of various combos. I put various combos in for a reason--they sound very different.
Maybe to your ears there is no noticeable difference, but those of us that have been playing and modifying guitars a decade or so before you born--we can certainly tell the differences.
Just because you can't hear it, is not reason to post that rubbish.
well,Im 48 & started playing in late 85/early 86 ,started Modding in the mid 90s So that puts you around close to 60 I guess,cool. ...Im just sayin,I dont hear much of difference,didnt say theres No difference.
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well,Im 48 & started playing in late 85/early 86 ,started Modding in the mid 90s So that puts you around close to 60 I guess,cool. ...Im just sayin,I dont hear much of difference,didnt say theres No difference.
Yeah--That puts me at about 60...lol.

Sorry, bud--didn't mean to come unglued about it. Spent the better part of the day arguing about a real Ibanez parts guitar.




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Yeah--That puts me at about 60...lol.

Sorry, bud--didn't mean to come unglued about it. Spent the better part of the day arguing about a real Ibanez parts guitar.
Np ....I have the EMG hz H3 on its way for my neck p.u the replace this weakass almost clean pickup in the neck now,only prob is I have a band tryout Monday & Lets say I get this pickup in by fri/saturday...Im not about to attempt replacing the pickup that close to Monday .....I'll just stay on the Bridge & replace the pickup afterwords. Atleast the H3 is a medium output,which is better than whats in there now.
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That is absolute BS!
Every one of my Ibbies has $50.00+ DiMarzios of various combos. I put various combos in for a reason--they sound very different.
Maybe to your ears there is no noticeable difference, but those of us that have been playing and modifying guitars a decade or so before you born--we can certainly tell the differences.
Just because you can't hear it, is not reason to post that rubbish.
it was an opinion - that doesnt make it BS or rubbish...he was just offering an opinion, which is allowed here last time I checked...

I think I've changed the stock pups out of all of my guitars and have different Duncans, Dimarzios and custom pups in my guitars too but I also believe that a lot of players spend more time, $ and energy than necessary on getting fussy about pickups when the differences between some pickups can be compensated for by just changing the EQ on the amp a bit...just an opinion...
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it was an opinion - that doesnt make it BS or rubbish...he was just offering an opinion, which is allowed here last time I checked...

I think I've changed the stock pups out of all of my guitars and have different Duncans, Dimarzios and custom pups in my guitars too but I also believe that a lot of players spend more time, $ and energy than necessary on getting fussy about pickups when the differences between some pickups can be compensated for by just changing the EQ on the amp a bit...just an opinion...
Read my previous post--explanation there...lol.



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