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post #1 of 16 (permalink) Old 11-26-2004, 06:44 PM Thread Starter
 
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Yet another pickups for RG question

I have decided to (finally) get some new pickups for my RG.

It's an RG470(MIJ). Basswood body, maple neck with a rosewood fretboard.
It's hum/single/hum, all stock at the moment.

Im going to be playing this into my Cornford Mk50, playing all sorts of music.
(Metal, rock, blues, jazz, instrumental stuff)

Im looking for a bridge pickup that's fairly tight and defined and not too bassy, as the Cornford gives me a pretty thick tone. It should have enough thickness/warmth for a singing lead sound, but also have a fairly clear rythym tone. It should warm up nicley when the volume is rolled back.

At the moment I am pretty set on getting a DiMarzio Air Norton for the neck position. Im going to keep the stock single. (Because i'm poor and lazy)

In the bridge I was thinking of a DiMarzio Evolution, but I have heard that in chords there isn't too much definition.
I did try a JEM with evo's in my Cornford before and I remember really liking them, but that was quite a while back, and it's a diferent guitar. (Alder body, ebony fretboard).

So, any opinions on the evolution bridge pickup? or any sugestions for other bridge pickups that would get me the tones im looking for?
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post #2 of 16 (permalink) Old 11-27-2004, 12:54 AM
 
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ive got a paf pro in the neck of one of my axes and i swear its one of the best pickups ever, very very tight, very defined and has a both a satch and a vai sound to it, i had a tone zone in the bridge but it was too exaggerated for me, if go the paf pro
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post #3 of 16 (permalink) Old 11-27-2004, 12:06 PM
 
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a tone zone is good for both lead and rythm work.
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post #4 of 16 (permalink) Old 11-27-2004, 01:23 PM
 
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Re: Yet another pickups for RG question

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I have decided to (finally) get some new pickups for my RG.

It's an RG470(MIJ). Basswood body, maple neck with a rosewood fretboard.
It's hum/single/hum, all stock at the moment.

Im going to be playing this into my Cornford Mk50, playing all sorts of music.
(Metal, rock, blues, jazz, instrumental stuff)

Im looking for a bridge pickup that's fairly tight and defined and not too bassy, as the Cornford gives me a pretty thick tone. It should have enough thickness/warmth for a singing lead sound, but also have a fairly clear rythym tone. It should warm up nicley when the volume is rolled back.

At the moment I am pretty set on getting a DiMarzio Air Norton for the neck position. Im going to keep the stock single. (Because i'm poor and lazy)

In the bridge I was thinking of a DiMarzio Evolution, but I have heard that in chords there isn't too much definition.
I did try a JEM with evo's in my Cornford before and I remember really liking them, but that was quite a while back, and it's a diferent guitar. (Alder body, ebony fretboard).

So, any opinions on the evolution bridge pickup? or any sugestions for other bridge pickups that would get me the tones im looking for?
I have an MIJ 470 and use the very same setup of pickups, and out of the higher output pickups, the evo has the MOST definition, IMO, i don't know where you got the idea of it being undefined, there's a lovely upper mid spike going on that makes it CUUUUUT!

Yes the air norton is a beast also.

The tone zone always felt a little "bland" for me.
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post #5 of 16 (permalink) Old 11-28-2004, 06:58 AM Thread Starter
 
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Re: Yet another pickups for RG question

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I have an MIJ 470 and use the very same setup of pickups, and out of the higher output pickups, the evo has the MOST definition, IMO, i don't know where you got the idea of it being undefined, there's a lovely upper mid spike going on that makes it CUUUUUT!

Yes the air norton is a beast also.

The tone zone always felt a little "bland" for me.
I have read people saying the evo sort of blurred the notes together in big chords. One thing I do remember from playing the JEM is that the lead sounded like it would cut really well.
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I find the paf pro to be a very nice bridge pup myself, and i enjoy tone zones alot also but im not sure i would go with that in basswood myself.
As for the evo's i rather like the evo neck but im not a fan of the bridge a great deal of the time, i just find the highs far to harsh. as for the chord definition i find with my cornford its a very well defined pup and doesnt tend to "mush" up a great deal.

As i said i realy dig paf pros and find they work very well with cornford amps as they are very transparent and seem to let the amp have a great deal of the guitar and players charecter.
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post #7 of 16 (permalink) Old 11-28-2004, 06:29 PM Thread Starter
 
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I find the paf pro to be a very nice bridge pup myself, and i enjoy tone zones alot also but im not sure i would go with that in basswood myself.
As for the evo's i rather like the evo neck but im not a fan of the bridge a great deal of the time, i just find the highs far to harsh. as for the chord definition i find with my cornford its a very well defined pup and doesnt tend to "mush" up a great deal.

As i said i realy dig paf pros and find they work very well with cornford amps as they are very transparent and seem to let the amp have a great deal of the guitar and players charecter.
Did you try the evo bridge pickup with your cornford?
If so, what guitar was it in?

Cheers.
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post #8 of 16 (permalink) Old 11-29-2004, 05:28 AM
 
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Yep i still have an evo in the bridge of my jem7vsbl and the guitar gets used with the hellcat everyday, i will soon be swaping it out for a paf pro however.
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post #9 of 16 (permalink) Old 11-29-2004, 06:43 AM
 
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I have got a Steve Morse pickup in my RG (maple fretboard) and I love it. Its got loads of definition and stays clear under distortion but it doesn't have a vocal quality to it like some of the other dimarzios do.
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post #10 of 16 (permalink) Old 11-29-2004, 09:32 AM Thread Starter
 
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Yep i still have an evo in the bridge of my jem7vsbl and the guitar gets used with the hellcat everyday, i will soon be swaping it out for a paf pro however.
Hmmm.
Thats an alder guitar as well isn't it?
What would the evo sound like in basswood. Is there any less high end?
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I imagine the basswood might cut the highs a little yes but haveing never tryed evos in basswood ive not got any experience.
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Yep i still have an evo in the bridge of my jem7vsbl and the guitar gets used with the hellcat everyday, i will soon be swaping it out for a paf pro however.
Hmmm.
Thats an alder guitar as well isn't it?
What would the evo sound like in basswood. Is there any less high end?
A Jem 555 has Evos in basswood with a rosewood board. That would probably the best way to see what the tone would be like.

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I think im going to go to the local Cornford dealer (Fair deal music) and try some guitars with these pickups in. If I can find any.

Cheers for all your help everyone
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you have to keep in mind that the evos were really designed for live situation, esp high volume soloing. In that setting, i have found that my evo is very crisp. As for the chording/lack of definition issue, i think setting up the p/u height correctly will go a long way for the sound
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post #15 of 16 (permalink) Old 11-29-2004, 11:51 PM
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Sounds like you want a Norton in the bridge, has the mids and highs of the TZ with a tighter bottom end. Great sounding pickup, I tried a TZ in an old guitar of mine and it was muddy sounding, switched to a Norton (on Steve Bulcher's suggestion) and it was great. Strange that more people don't try this pickup!

As for the neck, the new PAF Joe rocks! Rounder than a PAF Pro, more definition than an Air Norton, sweet pickup.

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