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03-20-2012 06:06 PM
chrisf
Re: Can someone explain difference between original rg550, the 25th anni RG and a Jem

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Originally Posted by RGTFanatic View Post
Screw hole location in the pickguard is the first thing I see on all of these........this one also has the wrong rear cover plates, wrong strap button, wrong pot locations, wrong neck screw locations, the AANJ carve on the neck doesn't even come close to matching the body, the locking nut is monsterous, the tuners are wrong (looking at the back)......and so on.

I'm betting the Star Wars poster is a counterfeit as well............LOL.

and the couch looks like pleather..........
LOL! That is funny... And good eye!
03-20-2012 05:25 PM
RGTFanatic
Re: Can someone explain difference between original rg550, the 25th anni RG and a Jem

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Originally Posted by kfssdude View Post
This is what I LOVE about this site... There are always folks who know more than you!

I did not spot the fake white at first glance but upon closer inspection I do see some suspicious details. Go for the 7VSBL! There are a LOT of fake 7VWH floating around out there but that sparkle blue is gorgeous and too hard to replicate to make it worth knocking off.
They actually fake the VSBL too, and some are done pretty well..........they're getting harder to spot.
03-20-2012 05:23 PM
RGTFanatic
Re: Can someone explain difference between original rg550, the 25th anni RG and a Jem

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Hey, how did you spot that other than the monkey grip? Any other signs?
Screw hole location in the pickguard is the first thing I see on all of these........this one also has the wrong rear cover plates, wrong strap button, wrong pot locations, wrong neck screw locations, the AANJ carve on the neck doesn't even come close to matching the body, the locking nut is monsterous, the tuners are wrong (looking at the back)......and so on.

I'm betting the Star Wars poster is a counterfeit as well............LOL.

and the couch looks like pleather..........
03-20-2012 11:48 AM
elcid
Re: Can someone explain difference between original rg550, the 25th anni RG and a Jem

damn the tone knob on that "7VWH" is almost on the couch.
03-20-2012 11:18 AM
Hikey Mikey
Re: Can someone explain difference between original rg550, the 25th anni RG and a Jem

Four-screw pickguard.

Peace

Mike
03-20-2012 09:26 AM
chrisf
Re: Can someone explain difference between original rg550, the 25th anni RG and a Jem

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The VWH is a counterfeit!!! stay away....FAKE....FAKE....FAKE!!!
Hey, how did you spot that other than the monkey grip? Any other signs?
03-20-2012 01:00 AM
BuffDaddySmurf
Re: Can someone explain difference between original rg550, the 25th anni RG and a Jem

Thanks a bunch for all the great info guys!!!
03-19-2012 11:34 PM
kfssdude
Re: Can someone explain difference between original rg550, the 25th anni RG and a Jem

This is what I LOVE about this site... There are always folks who know more than you!

I did not spot the fake white at first glance but upon closer inspection I do see some suspicious details. Go for the 7VSBL! There are a LOT of fake 7VWH floating around out there but that sparkle blue is gorgeous and too hard to replicate to make it worth knocking off.
03-19-2012 11:21 PM
Hikey Mikey
Re: Can someone explain difference between original rg550, the 25th anni RG and a Jem

Ha, Ryc beat me to it! I was looking too hard at it. Took me a while but I got the right answer.

Peace

Mike
03-19-2012 11:16 PM
Hikey Mikey
Re: Can someone explain difference between original rg550, the 25th anni RG and a Jem

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Originally Posted by BuffDaddySmurf View Post
. . .
You can go to Houston.craigslist.com , put in ibanez Jem and you will see two Jems for sale with pics. Would either of those be considered a deal?

. . .
I like the blue one, that finish is gorgeous in the light, but you wouldn't know it from those crappy pictures. For $1600, I'd go check it out and haggle with him if I liked it.

The 7VWH is a fake.

Peace

Mike
03-19-2012 11:05 PM
kfssdude
Re: Can someone explain difference between original rg550, the 25th anni RG and a Jem

Well I can personally vouch for the '02 sparkle blue - I own this exact same year model & color. It is the last year of the Edge Lo-Pro and stud locks from the factory. Outstanding Jem. The other ($1500) white also looks to be in good shape and is a great guitar as well. For reference, both these guitars have very similar specs... Both are Alder bodies w/ full EVO pup sets. The white has the newer 5-pc maple/walnut neck while the blue has the originla spec 1-pc quartersawn neck. Personally, I prefer the latter feel-wise and have yet to have any warping issues of any kind, so I don't know that the newer method has any real advantage over the other. I can tell you the blue vine is much less distinct as the co.trast between the blue inlay & rosewood fingerboard is less, so if you're really wanting the extra visual wow factor the white "pops out" more.

I personally own both, plus an '89 777VBK and a "custom" (I.e "tribute" custom built). I mildly modified my blue by swapping pups & adding a brass trem block and I can tell you it is the best playing and sounding guitar I own. Really. So I'm partial to the blue, but thats just me. That guy was asking $1700 but specifically stated it was "mint" & came with a brand new Ibanez hard case so I'd say its worth checking out. Either is a reasonable deal nut if you could get the blue down to $1500-1600 I'd jump on it. Plus the blue is a little less common than the white, while retaining similar tone & feel by being the only non-white Alder vesion (which I think is kinda cool). The white may also be a good deal if its in mint condition though so its def worth checking out, and listed @ $200 cheaper.

I would ask them for close up pics of the back of the neck where the lock-nut screws are and the neck/body joint.... These are by far the most common weak points & are most likely to show 1st signs of fatigue. Or even better just play them & closely examine them in person. If one feels "just right" & makes you forget your beloved RG's, you have your answer!

Best of luck man!
03-19-2012 11:05 PM
RGTFanatic
Re: Can someone explain difference between original rg550, the 25th anni RG and a Jem

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Originally Posted by BuffDaddySmurf View Post
Unfortunately.I cannot post links here since I dont have 10 posts yet.

You can go to Houston.craigslist.com , put in ibanez Jem and you will see two Jems for sale with pics. Would either of those be considered a deal?



Thanks again!
The VSBL looks like one to ask for more info/pics of..........the price is more than fair for one in good condition.

The VWH is a counterfeit!!! stay away....FAKE....FAKE....FAKE!!!
03-19-2012 10:39 PM
BuffDaddySmurf
Re: Can someone explain difference between original rg550, the 25th anni RG and a Jem

Unfortunately.I cannot post links here since I dont have 10 posts yet.

You can go to Houston.craigslist.com , put in ibanez Jem and you will see two Jems for sale with pics. Would either of those be considered a deal?



Thanks again!
03-19-2012 10:17 PM
kfssdude
Re: Can someone explain difference between original rg550, the 25th anni RG and a Jem

Depending on the model & condition, $1500 for a Jem can be a pretty good price. I watch them on EBay pretty regularly and they tend to average $2k-$2500. Some models are considered more collectible than others (such as the original swirls and the original neons) so tend to average going rates of $3500-4500. But for a good condition players Jem with a hard case $1500 is def a decent price. I've seen several whites, sparkle blues, and blacks in that range. Just make sure you stick with the 7 series and avoid the 555, 333, etc Jem Jr series which are not Japanese built and tend to have significant variability in build quality.

I'm glad to hear your review of the RG 25th as I've been seriously considering picking one up!
03-19-2012 10:06 PM
BuffDaddySmurf
Re: Can someone explain difference between original rg550, the 25th anni RG and a Jem

Thanks for the inFo guys. I have an original RG550 that I bought back around 1988-1990. So long ago I can't remember but I have had many guitars over the past 20 years (ESP,BC rich,les Paul, USA strat, ect) and I have always gone right back to my rg550. Last week I walked into guitar center and saw the yellow 25th anni RG, picked it up, played it for 10 minutes and ended buying it. I have been playing every night going back and forth between them and this is the first guitar that I cannot put down and go back to the original RG. I am blown away by this thing. This has peeked my interest in the Jem since that is the ( correct me if I'm wrong) top Ibanez(rg like) guitar. Now I'm dying to play one and see what its all about. I'm seeing a few used Jems on Craigslist here in my city (Houston) for about $1500-$1600. I'm just not sure if those are considered deals. I will keep researching the Jem.



Thanks again!
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