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09-28-2002 12:53 PM
lgascoig I never use the trems on my EBMMs so I can't vouch for stability from bar use. What I can say is, if a string breaks you're screwed. Another thing I found annoying is that if you change strings 1 at a time the holes on the back plate don't like up, so I leave the back plates off (which I don't like). What I can say is, the intonation on the guitar is perfect even after removing all of the strings several times. I have always replaced with Slinky 10's though which I think is what it came with so that isn't suprising. Over time the guitars don't go out of tune that much at all. In contrast my PRS CE24 is constantly out of tune from the knobs touching stuff. Seems to never happen on my EBMMs.
09-27-2002 04:48 PM
DLHelfand I can tell you this much. I saw John abuse the **** out of his trem live and it stayed in tune. To be honest, I was totally surprised. I like the new guitar, but expected him to have to swap guitars after every song. That was just not so. In fact, he played the same axe for most of the night.
09-17-2002 01:19 AM
BrianH I love my ebmm jpm, stays in tune period. I don't seem to have any problems intonating it. But like anything, some will be better than others.

I don't need to defend the ebmm jpm, it'll stand on its own. I love it, thats all that matters. Now anyone know how to get them dern knobs off the jpm? Mine don't seem to want to come off, some trick I don't know? frustrating, I don't like those stupid plastic red knobs... I got some chrome pearl red ones oooooh!
09-16-2002 08:20 PM
sniperfrommars1 Hmmm. Ive never seen the axis guitars do this. DO they often suffer from the same defect? my opinion on it is, the neck joint should probably have more of a taper and a curve instead of a sharper point at the edges. may or may not help and it would be a little harder to do, handfinish etc.
09-16-2002 08:00 PM
Rich QC and Customer Service both first rate, they're going to go broke replacing bodies on these though.
09-16-2002 07:56 PM
vaijem777 Agreed...I've seen a couple of brand new ones with the finish cracks out of the box. I've been waiting and watching, hoping that mine doesn't suffer the same deffect. If it's made it this long unscathed, I'm sure it'll be ok. But...that's definitely one thing that bothered me about them, especially with the extreme Q.C. that EB/MM is supposed to have.
09-16-2002 07:50 PM
Rich I don't know, I've given them some serious abuse and haven't had any problems. One thing that really needs to ensure this is that there are no wraps of string around the tuners, that will casue some varience on return. Otherwise, they'll take a beating, flutter really sweet, and do all the tricks I ever tried on one EBMM's problem isn't with the trem [even though it would be nice if it would intonate fully], their problem is with neck joint finish cracks exactly like the old heel style Jems. ;/
09-16-2002 06:52 PM
sniperfrommars1
09-16-2002 06:51 PM
vaijem777 LOL Ok.
09-16-2002 06:45 PM
sniperfrommars1 you cant tell me that a floating standard trem design like the ebmm jpm stays in tune after breaking a string. Im sorry, but you cant tune if you beleive that its not different. Like your guitar all you want I never said it wasnt a good instrument, but I use the floyd for a reason. Because it stays in tune when I use it the way I want to use it, which the ernie balls Ive played have not. the ernie ball like the floyd rose is a floating design. When setup floating if one breaks a string the tension on the springs change therebye changing the tension of the strings knocking it out of tune. I dont know what warped dimension you live in, but even stephen hawkings would have a hard time proving otherwise Say what you will. its a good trem, and if I used the bar for simple vibrato and that only I guess it would serve its purpose, but a floyd can do vibrato, and whammy tricks, not to mention elephant calls, and whistling at chicks while im bored between songs in the clubs. I understand its a different design and it wasnt meant to be able to do the things a floyd can, but thats why i didnt buy it myself. Because it cant
09-16-2002 06:45 PM
Rich Either that or you're tone deaf!

J/K!!!
09-16-2002 06:43 PM
vaijem777 Wow...mine must be magically tunelicious! Haven't had a single issue, even when the "B" string popped a couple of weeks ago.
09-16-2002 06:38 PM
Rich Uhh, the EB is still a floating trem, you break a string, they all go out of tune!
09-16-2002 06:35 PM
vaijem777 Your preference is duly noted, and completely respected. But...it still doesn't make a Floyd hold up any differently. They are NOT designed to do the same thing, so it's not really possible to compare them in terms of features. But...in terms of stability, that is where the difference is. Stability is more than being able to pull up 5 steps and stay in tune. In the reality of a gigging player's life, you've got to be prepared for the eventuality of string breakage. I personally would much rather be able to break a string and not miss a beat than have to switch guitars mid-song. I suppose if you're in a two-guitarist lineup, it wouldn't be as much of an issue. However, I am the sole guitarist in my band. To me, "stability" is synonymous with being "trouble-free". According to www.websters.com:

sta∑bil∑i∑ty Pronunciation Key (st-bl-t)
n. pl. sta∑bil∑i∑ties
1:The state or quality of being stable, especially:
Resistance to change, deterioration, or displacement.
Constancy of character or purpose; steadfastness.
Reliability; dependability.
2: the quality of being free from change or variation

I'm pretty sure that a Floyd doesn't have "the quality of being free from change or variation", especially when a string breaks. It's great that you haven't broken any strings live, but...that doesn't change the effect that a broken string has on a locking tremolo's stability.

As luck would have it, the only 3 or 4 times that I've broken strings live in the last 10 years have been on Edge/LoPro equipped guitars (since 90% of the guitars I've owned have been Ibanez). On those occasions, the locking trems have been anything BUT trouble free. The guitar becomes useless until the set is over and the broken string can be replaced. I'd gladly trade the ability to do "whammy tricks" for the luxury of not having to change guitars mid-song.

Preference+opinion does not equal fact.
09-16-2002 06:34 PM
Rich The pointy head is a better weapon, wish the EB's luck and read them last rights before they start
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