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01-28-2016 08:47 AM
jetflyer01
Re: Muddy Bridge

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Originally Posted by Chronos333 View Post
For the LiveWire, I think they are no longer available.
Nobody with actual experience of the D-Activators or the SD Distortion (TB6)?
To my ears the TB6 and the 81 have much in common... bright and focused. Maybe 81 tighter, tad more gain. Different approach but not too far off.

Whoever gave you the advice on the TB4 was probably right. It's the easy, cheap way out. Killer Lead tone IMO, more than decent rhythm. Palm muting/harmonics? Oh yeah! If you're real picky maybe step up to the Nazgul.
12-04-2015 06:40 AM
Chronos333
Re: Muddy Bridge

For the LiveWire, I think they are no longer available.
Nobody with actual experience of the D-Activators or the SD Distortion (TB6)?
12-03-2015 12:49 AM
j.arledge
Re: Muddy Bridge

i have never tried a cap on the lead of a pickup. I have used 1 meg pots on dark pickups before. It does let a lot of the high end stay in your sound and can really clear out some mud.

For actives m favorite set to date is the SD live wire set. They do a great job of getting the best of both worlds.


If you want more clarity and HiFi sound try the lace alumitone/deathbucker/dethbars. I had a deathbucker and standard alumitone in one of my guitars and really miss them. The deathbucker isn't super over the top output, it is however very clear and articulate. They are designed to be used with 250k pots, but i had 500k so the pickups were very bright. They really let your guitar and amp shape your tone more than coloring your sound.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kwxbihuTZPY
12-02-2015 09:36 PM
LonePhantom
Re: Muddy Bridge

Yeah, the guitar can definitely have an affect. I now have the tone zone in another guitar and it sounds absolutely amazing,with the only changes to the pickup being hex head screws, rather than the stock type.
12-02-2015 08:52 PM
Chronos333
Re: Muddy Bridge

I will try this, maybe the C-Pig will sound better after this, because my experience with the tone zone was the same as yours...
12-02-2015 05:28 PM
LonePhantom
Re: Muddy Bridge

A simple and cheap mod to de-mud your bridge pickup is to wire in a capacitor between your bridge pickup's hot wire and the pickup selector. It works as a low-pass filter. You can buy a range of capacitors to test for small change. I've been through this myself with one of my old guitars and it can make quite the difference.

http://www.lonephantom.com/2010/11/t...the-tone-zone/

http://www.lonephantom.com/2011/02/t...one-continued/
12-02-2015 12:23 PM
peromucho7
Re: Muddy Bridge

I am sorry but I did not try 81 in my 540S. I bought it second hand with X2N, but that pickup is staying there.
Friend has Guild Aviator all maple with 81, which I like to play.
When I compare both guitars through real JCM800 amp against RG550EX,
V8 sounds dry like paper, and I need to put some effects in chain to make it listenable,
81 sounds very wet, very wide, and when I turn volume down it doesn't get dark or muddy, even on 6th string, and doesn't need any effect to make it pleasing to ears,
X2n is much closer to active pickups, wide sounding, very good harmonics, better then 81, and good sustain,
(But using AxeFXII, with enough gain, all my guitars sound same, even my Classic Vibe 50' strat, can sound like Zak Wild's Les Paul.)
12-02-2015 11:48 AM
Chronos333
Re: Muddy Bridge

nope you are right, it's a 25.5 22 fret neck
How would you compare your X2N on your Saber vs 81 (or other PU you have tried in the bridge)?
12-02-2015 11:30 AM
peromucho7
Re: Muddy Bridge

I have X2N in '94 540SBM and I like it there,
but are you sure that your 540s is 24.75? I thought that 540S is 25.5?
12-02-2015 11:10 AM
Chronos333
Re: Muddy Bridge

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Originally Posted by peromucho7 View Post
Then instead of CL try X2N.
( And as far as 89 concerned, you have good ears, 89 IS slightly weaker then 85, because it has one more pickup, if I remember correctly full SA is inside)
My ears says thank you for the compliment.
As you said slightly weaker, but not by much.

For the X2n, might be a good choice indeed, never thought about this one + it looks so cool. However is there a risk of it being muddy on a 24.75 Mahogany? It shouldn't be I just checked on DMZ website, they state less bass and more mids+treble than crunch lab.... might well fit the bill. I don't care about the cleans, I can split it or use the neck for the cleans.

For the 81/60 combo, that's what I will do if I end up being fedup with the never ending passive quest.
12-02-2015 10:54 AM
panix
Re: Muddy Bridge

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Originally Posted by Chronos333 View Post
By the way, a little comment on EMGs, because I read a lot of crap on them over the net.
My point on EMGs ( I have been playing them for 10 years now, never tried the 60 though):
- If you have a cheap amp, don't use EMG, it will be worse
- If you have a cheap guitar, don't use EMG, it will be worse
- If all your equipment is fine but your playing technic is imprecise: don't use EMG, it will be worse
- If someone tells you these are high output, stop listening
- If someone tells you the fact they use a preamp on board makes them bad: ask him if he plays straight in the poweranp and never plays with a preamp and/or a tube screamer before reaching the poweramp.
- If someone tells you they don't let the "wood speak" and are very neutral, ask him to go talk to the trees because they respect your equipment sound far more than any passive that colour your sound and hide some of your playing. There is a contradiction there because neutral means to me no artificial colouring.

The only thing I concede against EMGs is they sometimes overcompress your sound, but I found a way to solve this (EQ + 24V)
I love EMG81/60 in mahogany single cut sort scale. My only complaint is 50Hz + RF EMF interference noise compared to Duncans/DMZs
12-02-2015 10:47 AM
peromucho7
Re: Muddy Bridge

Quote:
Originally Posted by Chronos333 View Post

... . However, I want slightly more cut than the Crunch Lab, if possible.
However you are right the 85 is an amazing PU (neck or bridge).
By the way I found my 89 (one of the first/old ones) not to sound the same as the 85 in the neck, the 85 seemed to me hotter than the 89. Maybe it's just me as they are supposed to be the same.
Then instead of CL try X2N.
( And as far as 89 concerned, you have good ears, 89 IS slightly weaker then 85, because it has one more pickup, if I remember correctly full SA is inside)
12-02-2015 10:31 AM
Chronos333
Re: Muddy Bridge

By the way, a little comment on EMGs, because I read a lot of crap on them over the net.
My point on EMGs ( I have been playing them for 10 years now, never tried the 60 though):
- If you have a cheap amp, don't use EMG, it will be worse
- If you have a cheap guitar, don't use EMG, it will be worse
- If all your equipment is fine but your playing technic is imprecise: don't use EMG, it will be worse
- If someone tells you these are high output, stop listening
- If someone tells you the fact they use a preamp on board makes them bad: ask him if he plays straight in the poweranp and never plays with a preamp and/or a tube screamer before reaching the poweramp.
- If someone tells you they don't let the "wood speak" and are very neutral, ask him to go talk to the trees because they respect your equipment sound far more than any passive that colour your sound and hide some of your playing. There is a contradiction there because neutral means to me no artificial colouring.

The only thing I concede against EMGs is they sometimes overcompress your sound, but I found a way to solve this (EQ + 24V)
12-02-2015 10:23 AM
Chronos333
Re: Muddy Bridge

I didn't like the 81 in the neck.
for the 85/85 combo, I like to have mismatched Bridge/Neck PU, I know most of you guys likes matched sets, in the neck I like them vintage, in the bridge I like them modern.
Sorry to be neaty picky, but I think we all are on this forum
12-02-2015 10:20 AM
Chronos333
Re: Muddy Bridge

I already had an 85 in the bridge of an ESP MII (which I sold 5yrs ago). Good but I still prefer the cut of the 81 in the bridge for palm mutting. If I wanted something close to an 85 in passive, the crunch lab might do the trick, in my experience CL is less "round" than the 85 . However, I want slightly more cut than the Crunch Lab, if possible.
However you are right the 85 is an amazing PU (neck or bridge).
By the way I found my 89 (one of the first/old ones) not to sound the same as the 85 in the neck, the 85 seemed to me hotter than the 89. Maybe it's just me as they are supposed to be the same.
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