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06-09-2019 06:24 AM
Dutchie
Re: HELP!!! Jatoba (Brazilian Cherry) Wood for JEM Jr. Fretboard??

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Originally Posted by DEADTUNES666 View Post
I just bought a JEM Jr a couple of days ago, and saw after the fact that it used Meranti (body) and Jatoba (fretboard). The thing plays and sounds awesome though, and honestly I didn't notice the fretboard at all.

My big critique of it (and it's minor) is that the trem is very minimalistic and I'm not a big fan of it. Having said that, I'm still happy with it. I'm swapping the humbuckers out and already capped the single coil and swapped the knobs in green.

I also ordered the pink JR too...
The trems in them are garbage... Luckily, a Floyd Rose fits in them perfectly. Much better with a FR. They're fantastic guitars for the price...
06-08-2019 11:50 AM
mrpanoff
Re: HELP!!! Jatoba (Brazilian Cherry) Wood for JEM Jr. Fretboard??

It's supposed to darken under UV light, try it.
05-19-2019 01:35 AM
DEADTUNES666
Re: HELP!!! Jatoba (Brazilian Cherry) Wood for JEM Jr. Fretboard??

I just bought a JEM Jr a couple of days ago, and saw after the fact that it used Meranti (body) and Jatoba (fretboard). The thing plays and sounds awesome though, and honestly I didn't notice the fretboard at all.

My big critique of it (and it's minor) is that the trem is very minimalistic and I'm not a big fan of it. Having said that, I'm still happy with it. I'm swapping the humbuckers out and already capped the single coil and swapped the knobs in green.

I also ordered the pink JR too...
02-13-2019 05:22 PM
greenman
Re: HELP!!! Jatoba (Brazilian Cherry) Wood for JEM Jr. Fretboard??

I've just got an S670QM Dragon Eye Burst with a Jatoba fingerboard. Yes it actually feels hard and it's a bit light in colour, but I've oiled it and it's taken a slightly darker sheen and now feels smoother to play. Interesting what you people have said about it getting naturally darker in daylight. Aesthetically, it looks fine with the quilted maple top of the Dragon, picking up the lighter shades of the top
01-29-2019 02:07 AM
klimbo
Re: HELP!!! Jatoba (Brazilian Cherry) Wood for JEM Jr. Fretboard??

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Originally Posted by AidanLoveSecrets View Post
I live in Australia and ordered a JEM Jr. White at a local guitar store in February. They said it would arrive by early April, so when it got to around the 10th of April I called them up and asked if my Jr. was available to be picked up.
They said it had been delayed because of the new CITES Law about endangered rosewood, and it was probably being stopped at every port it went to around the world and getting checked, and would arrive early June.
I just picked it up yesterday and didn't open it until I got home. I opened it and was confused, as the fretboard looked a lot lighter and redder than what I had seen on videos/websites etc.
After some googling I read on the Ibanez website that all Jr.s are now being made with Jatoba instead of Rosewood, to avoid holdups in transit I'm guessing.
My problem is that I really hate the look of the guitar with the lighter/redder Jatoba wood rather than the darker rosewood. It still sounds fine, but I hate the look.
I was not notified by the guitar store about the wood change. Tutuapp 9apps Showbox
Does anyone have any ideas on what I could do about it?? (pic included)
hi friend
if i speak on myself : I live with guitar from 15 years prior on the off chance that you don't care for the light shade of your jatoba fretboards put some lineum oil each day on it the fretboard turned out to be most solid the wood turned out to be most darker and more beutifull
best regards bro
01-12-2019 07:59 PM
Raphael jem
Re: HELP!!! Jatoba (Brazilian Cherry) Wood for JEM Jr. Fretboard??

Hi Guys,
I am from Brazil and the wood "JatobŠ" darkens with time, any attempt to dye the wood only worsens the result, it tends to get the color similar to chocolate. It's patience and waiting to get dark over time. Incidentally, this species is also at risk of extinction. I have in my house a log of this kind, but I will use it to make an acoustic guitar. For the fretboard I would use a wood called "YpÍ" that is similar to Maple, hard as rock and suitable for typing.
11-26-2018 01:21 PM
Alfredo Ibanez guitar signature models Kiko have a frestboard of Jatoba too i don'think it'a problem i play well on it
11-26-2018 10:27 AM
Alfredo
Re: HELP!!! Jatoba (Brazilian Cherry) Wood for JEM Jr. Fretboard??

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Originally Posted by AidanLoveSecrets View Post
I live in Australia and ordered a JEM Jr. White at a local guitar store in February. They said it would arrive by early April, so when it got to around the 10th of April I called them up and asked if my Jr. was available to be picked up.
They said it had been delayed because of the new CITES Law about endangered rosewood, and it was probably being stopped at every port it went to around the world and getting checked, and would arrive early June.
I just picked it up yesterday and didn't open it until I got home. I opened it and was confused, as the fretboard looked a lot lighter and redder than what I had seen on videos/websites etc.
After some googling I read on the Ibanez website that all Jr.s are now being made with Jatoba instead of Rosewood, to avoid holdups in transit I'm guessing.
My problem is that I really hate the look of the guitar with the lighter/redder Jatoba wood rather than the darker rosewood. It still sounds fine, but I hate the look.
I was not notified by the guitar store about the wood change.
Does anyone have any ideas on what I could do about it?? (pic included)
Dear friends i live with guitar from 30 years ago if you don't like the light color of your jatoba fretboards put some lineum oil every day on it the fretboard became most strong the wood became most darker and more beutifull ( a liuther told me that secret)
06-18-2018 05:49 PM
cagedbeast
Re: HELP!!! Jatoba (Brazilian Cherry) Wood for JEM Jr. Fretboard??

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Originally Posted by jim777 View Post
wow, that's night and day different
Indeed it is. It's not even close. The one I bought had been out on the shop floor for a while, but I can't see any sort of darkening in it yet. I'm a fussy old git, so I don't have the patience to wait! lol
06-18-2018 05:46 PM
cagedbeast
Re: HELP!!! Jatoba (Brazilian Cherry) Wood for JEM Jr. Fretboard??

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Originally Posted by Marvin Buedtz View Post
Just wait, Jatoba darkens A LOT when exposed to sunlight. My Jatoba fretboard has darkened nicely and is now darker than my rosewood fretboards. Compared to rosewood it will be less brown but more of a reddish, almost blood-like tone though. So yeah, new Jatoba looks like ****, aged though it looks awesome.
You can probably fasten this process with the good old vinegar/steel wool stain, last resort: dye it with india ink.
I also think it's quite missleading to use pictures with fresh jatoba while in reality it will look very different from that within a few days. Maybe the should put the guitars into the light for a few days before shipping them or at least inform the customer about that .
Wow, thank you very much for mentioning this. You're the first person that's told me that. Very interesting! I agree....they should either inform you that it will change, or let them air for a few days. At very least, the online shops should put their own pictures up. One store that I rang were completely unaware until they opened a box while I was on the phone to them. His reaction was..."Oh my god, what's this??" lol

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Originally Posted by Marvin Buedtz View Post
This is what dry, untreated jatoba looks like in broad daylight after about 2 weeks of aging under room light.
I've read somewhere that it'll get the final color after about 4-6 months but don't quote me on that.

EDIT: and another one under room light.
Again, thank you for posting that. That does indeed look much nicer.

I have now bought the jatoba one, and got then to knock £20 off of the price due to the incorrect photo. I have a friend who owns a guitar repair shop and they are going to do it for that price. I much prefer the colour your guitar has turned, but in all honesty, I still don't think it's dark enough for my own preference. It's just the wrong shade to go with a reddish brown imo.

Thanks again!
06-15-2018 09:08 AM
Marvin Buedtz
Re: HELP!!! Jatoba (Brazilian Cherry) Wood for JEM Jr. Fretboard??

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Originally Posted by jemsite View Post
you have any photos from when you first got it?
Sadly not, but it was way lighter in color. Closer to the ones posted over here!
I guess the problem would be solved if Ibanez would let the wood oxidze in the sun for a few days before assembling the guitars because what you buy differs a lot from what you will end up with.


To be honest, I was hesistant to buy this guitar and thought about sending it back until I noticed the fretboard was changing.
I will try the vinegar/steelwool stain on the triangle beyond the nut. I heard Jatoba can be permanently made pitch black by doing so.
Then I'll decide if I wanna stick with the darkened Jatoba or ebonize the whole thing.
06-15-2018 08:57 AM
jemsite
Re: HELP!!! Jatoba (Brazilian Cherry) Wood for JEM Jr. Fretboard??

Quote:
Originally Posted by Marvin Buedtz View Post
This is what dry, untreated jatoba looks like in broad daylight after about 2 weeks of aging under room light.
I've read somewhere that it'll get the final color after about 4-6 months but don't quote me on that.

EDIT: and another one under room light.
you have any photos from when you first got it?
06-14-2018 01:55 PM
Marvin Buedtz
Re: HELP!!! Jatoba (Brazilian Cherry) Wood for JEM Jr. Fretboard??

This is what dry, untreated jatoba looks like in broad daylight after about 2 weeks of aging under room light.
I've read somewhere that it'll get the final color after about 4-6 months but don't quote me on that.

EDIT: and another one under room light.
06-14-2018 01:37 PM
mike570
Re: HELP!!! Jatoba (Brazilian Cherry) Wood for JEM Jr. Fretboard??

I haven't seen jabota in person but I don't mind how it looks. Now if I was expecting rosewood then got a guitar with jabota then, yeah, I'd be pissed.
06-14-2018 01:07 PM
jim777
Re: HELP!!! Jatoba (Brazilian Cherry) Wood for JEM Jr. Fretboard??

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Originally Posted by cagedbeast View Post
I had the same sort of encounter yesterday. Have been after the RGAT62 which looks great with the dark fretboard. However, after buying it online and going to the store to collect, I was greeted with a garish looking guitar. In fact, the wood actually resembled something more like cheap plywood. It could have been anything (probably was). I'm scooting around trying to find someone who does have a dark one.

One of the shops I rang, (U.K), went as far as to say that they are sure Ibanez will soon be replacing the jatoba wood with some sort of ebony once current stocks have gone. I don't know if anyone can confirm or deny this? I did wonder about staining it, but in all honesty....the wood looked nasty......not something I was interested in owning!

What i want....

What I was offered....
wow, that's night and day different
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