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02-28-2020 11:26 PM
mrpanoff
Re: Ibanez 2020 Catalog + NAMM

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Originally Posted by Frankhenrylee View Post
Turns out, no one wanted to pay $5000 for a Prestige RG with a different fretboard and paint color so they scrapped it.
I'm pretty sure if you have the cash you can talk them into one-two Sugi or six identical Fujigen JC guitars even right now.

They're insisting on the ToL even crazier than ever these days though.
01-30-2020 01:58 AM
Formerly Given To Fly
Re: Ibanez 2020 Catalog + NAMM

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Originally Posted by Frankhenrylee View Post
Balaguer has a semi-custom type ordering system where you can select from a pre-determined list of options. I think you can call and maybe get some more options as far as pickups. It's probably the nicest online guitar builder I've used. They're Korean built and probably in the same quality range as a Premium or Axiom. A little on the pricey side just for modifying a few things though. Pretty much doubles the cost. He doesn't make many production guitars though. I like the Espada shape and the Xiphos copy.
I built a couple of "Thickets" and I agree, the online guitar builder is nice. The way it is set up makes me think a "Randomize" button could be added which would randomly select the guitar and specs and present the final result. It would be a colossal waste of time and probably would not help the brand/sales but every once in a while "chance" would come up with something unintuitively cool.
01-28-2020 12:32 PM
Frankhenrylee
Re: Ibanez 2020 Catalog + NAMM

Balaguer has a semi custom type ordering system where you can select from a pre-determined list of options. I think you can call and maybe get some more options as far as pickups. It's probably the nicest online guitar builder I've used. They're Korean built and probably in the same quality range as a Premium or Axiom. A little on the pricey side just for modifying a few things though. Pretty much doubles the cost. He doesn't make many production guitars though. I like the Espada shape and the Xiphos copy.
01-25-2020 02:00 AM
Formerly Given To Fly
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Originally Posted by Frankhenrylee View Post
Turns out, no one wanted to pay $5000 for a Prestige RG with a different fretboard and paint color so they scrapped it.

Seriously though, Fujigen places themselves at the top of the guitar builder food chain. While I do happen to be an Ibanez fan and I'm sure they are capable of near perfect instruments, there's a price point where people will just go other places and my guess(and I stress the word guess) they are probably over that point.
I thought of the theoretical custom shop as being like the “prop models” except Ibanez would only be building 1 guitar for 1 customer. Something more than different fretboard wood and paint color.

I think you are right about people going elsewhere to buy their $5000+ guitars because outside of signature models, Ibanez has not made many $5000+ guitars, at least not for the U.S. market. So, it can be difficult to have an idea of what you are paying for when it does not generally exist. It would be a risky venture for everyone involved but it would be really interesting to see what could be made.
01-21-2020 09:37 PM
jim777
Re: Ibanez 2020 Catalog + NAMM

Here's a good example of what I'm talking about. Same Momose MTL1 Telecaster (a GREAT telecaster, btw) -
$1600 shipped on Reverb - https://reverb.com/item/29149438-mom...pping-included
Just under 1100 in the u-Box, so $1240 shipped directly from Ishibashi - https://www.ishibashi.co.jp/u_box/e/...d=03-316605213

$360 difference, same guitar, same seller.
01-21-2020 11:52 AM
jim777
Re: Ibanez 2020 Catalog + NAMM

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Originally Posted by Frankhenrylee View Post
I haven't check exchange rates, but I'm assuming the dollar just does not go that far in Japan. Every time I see a guitar being sold out of Japan you can tack an extra 10%-20% on and that's before shipping or customs.
It depends, you can often find guitars from Ishibashi on Reverb that are far, FAR cheaper if you buy them directly out of the U-box. My Tokai was 1799 or so on reverb and 1200 in the Ubox, for example.
01-20-2020 11:13 AM
Frankhenrylee
Re: Ibanez 2020 Catalog + NAMM

Turns out, no one wanted to pay $5000 for a Prestige RG with a different fretboard and paint color so they scrapped it.

Seriously though, Fujigen places themselves at the top of the guitar builder food chain. While I do happen to be an Ibanez fan and I'm sure they are capable of near perfect instruments, there's a price point where people will just go other places and my guess(and I stress the word guess) they are probably over that point.

I haven't check exchange rates, but I'm assuming the dollar just does not go that far in Japan. Every time I see a guitar being sold out of Japan you can tack an extra 10%-20% on and that's before shipping or customs.
01-20-2020 12:31 AM
Formerly Given To Fly
Re: Ibanez 2020 Catalog + NAMM

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Originally Posted by Rich View Post
It had never been settled either way, unless Thoman has their own deal worked out [doubtful] it was something that was in proposal only being talked about like it was a done deal.
Thank you for the clarification.
01-19-2020 01:05 PM
Rich
Re: Ibanez 2020 Catalog + NAMM

It had never been settled either way, unless Thoman has their own deal worked out [doubtful] it was something that was in proposal only being talked about like it was a done deal.
01-19-2020 06:58 AM
Formerly Given To Fly Question: What happened with the Ibanez/Sugi semi-custom shop option that was supposed to be available?
01-19-2020 12:36 AM
Formerly Given To Fly
Re: Ibanez 2020 Catalog + NAMM

Here is a short video of the Synergy Vai Module demoed by someone other than Steve Vai. At the 5:00 minute mark, they demonstrate the lead channel and the lead channel w/boost which is what I would want to hear if I were going to buy the Synergy Vai Module. Otherwise, there is not much playing involved.

01-18-2020 09:22 PM
Leviathus
Re: Ibanez 2020 Catalog + NAMM

That YY Talman is pretty sweet.
01-18-2020 09:20 PM
Rich
Re: Ibanez 2020 Catalog + NAMM

On the Talman if it's not ordered there's no way I'd inventory one, or ever look at one on a seconds offering. A Fujigen JIVA I would.
01-18-2020 09:18 PM
danpintos
Re: Ibanez 2020 Catalog + NAMM

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Originally Posted by Rich View Post
Rep got right back, $1100 MAP, availability unknown since it never made the catalog it's a late bloomer like the Japanese JIVA. Delivery times will be late.
Gotcha. I'm interested in the Jiva too, looking forward to the examples you find! Hopefully some nice factory seconds
01-18-2020 09:02 PM
Rich
Re: Ibanez 2020 Catalog + NAMM

Rep got right back, $1100 MAP, availability unknown since it never made the catalog it's a late bloomer like the Japanese JIVA. Delivery times will be late.
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