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12-30-2003 12:27 PM
jallen My radius is a Roadstar Pro 540 Radius and is from 87 (s# F709931). It has 3 mini-toggles, but with cosmo black hardware. It also says "Roadstar Series" on the headstock and the pickups are the older model that simply say IBZUSA (no further model number). I just throw this out there to back up the point that these models were a little mixed up feature-wise sometimes. Not like it matters- they are wonderful guitars whether you can find them in an old catalog or not!
12-28-2003 05:11 PM
Edwood Toshiro... thanks for the input re: the 'T' for sharktooth inlays. I'm a novice pretty much, so I don't know the difference by touch/look/feel between large and jumbo frets. Once I find out that, then I'll know the whole UALRL-T code. Finally!
12-28-2003 07:27 AM
LennyNero
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Originally Posted by frankfalbo
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Originally Posted by LennyNero
it's an F 735981... now what is a high number?????
Well, of the two I have in front of me, one is F704672 and the other is F704700, both mini-toggles, so you could be at a crossover point.
Thanks for the infos!

So I will do some setupwork (and cleaning) on my guitar soon... thath will be the first time I'll take the neck off and find out if it really is an Ultra

EDIT: anything I got to consider BEFORE taking off the neck?
12-28-2003 05:17 AM
toshiro I believe the 'T' at the end stands for the 'Teeth inlays, as all the Rg7xx necks I've seen have the the code ending in "-T"..

Does the neck have jumbo or large frets? That might be the last 'L', not sure though...

I know my 88 Rg750 and 89 Rg760 both have WALRJ-T stamped on the necks..
12-28-2003 04:33 AM
Edwood Rich... once again... you're the man. Thanks... funny how my wizard necked LTD has that U for Ultra... then again, now that Frank made his input... it definitely goes along with the whole "add the Sabre neck to a Radius body mix 'n' match thing.
12-27-2003 10:47 PM
Rich Ultra, Angled, Locking, Rosewood, something something
12-27-2003 10:42 PM
Edwood great info frankfalbo.. thanks much.

anyone know what UALRL-T means?

or why my HSH LTD has 540R-HH in the neck pocket?

thanks
12-27-2003 05:35 PM
frankfalbo
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Originally Posted by LennyNero
it's an F 735981... now what is a high number?????
Well, of the two I have in front of me, one is F704672 and the other is F704700, both mini-toggles, so you could be at a crossover point.
12-27-2003 04:36 PM
Rich Half the time for catalog shots they'd just grab what was available and modify it "close enough" to what the spec was for that year. And if they changed the spec mid year it's not like they'd announce it, they'd just start shipping that way.

No idea what's high for 87', the only 87's I deal in are Jems which aren't #rd that way.
12-27-2003 03:37 PM
frankfalbo
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Originally Posted by LennyNero
so my guitar is a hybrid from different years?
Could be, like the Black Cherry 540S in the '88 catalog. It's an '87 body with '88 hardware. The '80's in general were more made up of "production runs" rather than model years. The assembly line would do so many necks and bodies and if they decided to make a change, (toggle, jack placement, hardware etc.) they seemed to just do it at whatever time it was appropriate in the production, not for all guitars built or shipping out before or after Dec 31st.
12-27-2003 03:36 PM
LennyNero
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Originally Posted by Rich
Depends on how high the serial # is, if it's high it's an 88' built in late 87'.
Oh, thanks... here we go, it's an F 735981... now what is a high number?????
12-27-2003 03:30 PM
Rich Depends on how high the serial # is, if it's high it's an 88' built in late 87'.
12-27-2003 03:25 PM
LennyNero
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Originally Posted by frankfalbo
The '87's were all 3 mini toggles, small dots. The '88's saw the 5-way still with small dots.
Hm, no. Or my Serialnumber was swapped too.

From the number I can read that mine redburst was made in 87 (in Japan... thats F7something... I will look it up these days). and it has the 5-Way-Switch.

EDIT: Just reread your post.... so my guitar is a hybrid from different years????? NEck made in 87 and body in 88?????
12-27-2003 03:04 PM
frankfalbo I've had a lot of Radii, and I have 5 "bursts" right now. 4 are blue and one is red. (color names are redburst and blueburst) I was told that the bursts were made continually in Japan. They just weren't exported. Around '92-'93 they came back out with the blueburst in the US. It had a lo-pro and big dots. But it was just a decision to export them, as they were in production. I love those bursts. They are without a doubt my favorite finish ever made. Better than a true reverse burst, where the center is black but the outside is a different color. Fender did those, and they were okay, but these highlight the radius shape to perfection!

Here's the extent of my knowledge: The '87's were all 3 mini toggles, small dots. The '88's saw the 5-way still with small dots. The 89's had big dots. The pickups are the mystery to me, because I've only seen the various IBZUSA's, although I know about the IBZ-V&S combo, and I've seen those on some RG's. The 540RLTD has the wizard neck, and was made for those who wanted the wizard necks from the "S" guitars on the radius body. What I call a "cut & paste" model. Nothing new just different combinations. I have an '89 Jewel Blue that I put an "S" wizard neck on to make a pseudo-LTD." With the no-name neckplate you could easily have a neck swap. That would blow any dating away, but still put you at least at '88 for the body since the '87's had mini-toggles.

By they way, the years aren't exactly 1/1 through 12/31 so there are bound to be overlaps. The '88 catalog has some pics of guitars with '87 features mixed in with other guitars with '88 features, like the output jack placement on the 540S guitars. The black cherry one has the '87 route, but '88 cosmo hardware. There was a lot of mayhem then, and it's not uncommon to see a body from one year and a neck from the another.
12-27-2003 08:44 AM
horstausmforst Nope, mine wasn't shielded in the Electronics cavity! Maybe the shielding was removed, but anyway..

The only thing I still didnt do yet is recoating the neck. Any tips on that? Is it as simple as sanding-coating-sanding-coating-sanding? Or did I miss something?

Oh, and I made an attempt at dating it, due to the missing serial number. I've nailed it down to 1989, cause it was the first year with the larger fretboard dots and the last year with the flatter tremolo cavity, but that'd mean those reversed bursts were produced over at least 3 years...??

(btw, the trem cavity doesn't bother me much - added a neck shim and now I can pull up 8 steps on the 6th string, yeehah, lol)
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