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06-07-2004 12:03 AM
Petie You could always do it banjo-style and have the high A string start halfway along the fretboard
06-06-2004 10:18 PM
CrossingStar Maybe if someone wants to use a higher string rather than low, tune the guitar down a whole step, use heavier strings (so they aren't floppy) and then use a .009 or .008 for the high G (since tuning for the other 6 would now be DGCFAD). Granted, you would only be getting 3 extra high notes than a traditionally tuned 24 fret guitar
05-31-2004 05:34 AM
mscash777
To B, or not to B...

The manual I got when I purchased my UV777LNG in '92 said it could be done with only readjusting the saddles for the intonation changes and it also recommended a 7 be used (assuming you used 9's). If you used a heavier set (an 8 on 10's or a 9 on 11's), you will probably have to adjust the neck as well as probably add a spring or two.

To tell you the truth, I use 9's on all my 7strings and I use the low B tuning. My biggest problem is popping the D string on all my guitars! It must be from the D being in the middle on the 7strings....
05-23-2004 09:01 AM
jemaholic Wooops. Bought a UV. Thanks Jeremy!

Guess I'll have a chance to try out the high A after all!
05-21-2004 10:50 PM
acosmicfriend something else you have to keep in mind is that seven string pickups are voiced for a low B... Not a high A.
05-21-2004 07:04 PM
Jeff Using two strings of the same guage in different string slots is something you really get used to over time. My old GRX constantly breaks the high E (as does my 7VWH ) so I was always running out of high E strings. So I just started using 11 guage B strings tuned up to E. Worked out well for that position.
05-21-2004 06:35 PM
Sunrise I sometimes throw in solo stuff up to a high A when using my UV, I initially tried a high A string but it seemed even touching the trem would snap it so I use a pitch-shifter now
05-19-2004 10:34 AM
Drew
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Originally Posted by jemaholic
I would think with the additional high string you don't need to go up to the 24th fret at all. Keep your patterns mid-neck and the extra string allows you to stay there without romping up and down.
...which is the exact reason I like having the low string. You can chill out mid-neck and still hit some low-register notes withotu having to rely on open strings.

-D
05-19-2004 08:15 AM
jemaholic I would think with the additional high string you don't need to go up to the 24th fret at all. Keep your patterns mid-neck and the extra string allows you to stay there without romping up and down.
05-18-2004 07:34 PM
Jeff
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Originally Posted by The_Grindfiend
Seriously, how often do any of you reach the 24th fret, let alone feel the need to go above it?
When you want you want to play above a really high E
05-18-2004 06:09 PM
The_Grindfiend The scale length of the UVs is just too long to make high A feasible. Vai originally attempted to string it with a high A, but decided to go with the low B after it kept breaking. i think the low B is more useful, anyway. Seriously, how often do any of you reach the 24th fret, let alone feel the need to go above it?
05-18-2004 02:31 PM
RCB I would go with 0,8 - 10 - 13 - 17 for the upper strings and tune the guitar to C.

When I started playing I used 0,8 but the first string used to brake a lot (and it was tuned to E). Tunning it to C may be a feasable alternate tunning.
05-18-2004 02:15 PM
Algiman Rich didn't say it hadn't been tried, just that he had never been asked to do it. In the book that you used to get with a Universe it suggests a high A as a possible arrangement.

You could use 2 9s, but the string tension would be very different between them.
05-18-2004 02:05 PM
jemaholic Hmmm, not once Rich? I can't believe it hasn't been tried yet. Think of the soloing options!!!!

You could just use 2- 9's for the top! You wouldn't need to go thinner would you? I think it would work, and you could make the jump to 7 easier. I'd think it would also be easier to mute the top than the bottom and you keep all the chord patterns the same. Now I'm excited
05-18-2004 11:50 AM
Rich Not even once
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