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03-07-2006 06:05 PM
riconaka
Re: Ibanez S470

I've played a lot of different types, and I thing the playability is there, and it's light. I have shoulder problems, so... this works out really well. My other guitar is a Peavey Wolfgang, heavy, but sustains really well.
05-02-2005 01:51 PM
frankfalbo
Re: Ibanez S470

Can't you disengage the "Zero point" in the ZR trem? The ZR then becomes arguably smoother than any FR-style or other two fulcrum tremolo on the market.
05-02-2005 12:49 PM
fuze
Re: Ibanez S470

Exactly. Often, you have to ask for the trem arm when trying guitars at the store. I think it's a really good idea. I agree on the give or take. I really like non-locking trems - it's amazing how well they work with a set of locking tuners, and a few drops of lube on the nut (and no string tees!)
04-29-2005 09:26 PM
lyconxero
Re: Ibanez S470

In other words, it's a less fluid feel than a standard floating trem like an Edge/Pro/OFR/etc. But with all of these trems it's a give and take situation. Personally, I would say to just go to a store that has one and really mess around with the guitar and see if you like the feel of it. I remember the first time I played an S470DX in a store, I totally fell in love with it (even though I didn't get to mess with the trem because it had no arm on it at the time).
04-29-2005 12:39 PM
fuze
Re: Ibanez S470

Quote:
Originally Posted by Powerslave214
Notchy......how so? *confused*
You probably know the ZR trem has something like a tremsetter in it. A springloaded stop designed to keep it in tune better and reduce warble. If you're trying to do a smooth up and down vibrato, or any situation where you're going from flat to sharp, you feel it hit the stop every time you go through the neutral position - maybe notchy is not the best word, but there's a change in resistance. It just feels awkward to me.
04-28-2005 11:57 PM
Powerslave214
Re: Ibanez S470

Notchy......how so? *confused*
04-28-2005 11:55 AM
fuze
Re: Ibanez S470

Quote:
Originally Posted by Powerslave214
I'm a newbie when it comes to describing necks, but what's the difference between the Wizard II and Sangria necks?
I'm coming in a little late on this thread... but the Wizard is slightly wider (side to side), and thinner (from front to back). The SA is closer in feel to a later model Gibson or Fender with a fuller profile.

SA neck:

Scale
648mm/25.5"

a : Width at Nut
42mm

b : Width at Last Fret
56mm

c: Thickness at 1st
19.5mm

d : Thickness at 12th
21.5mm

Radius
400mmR

Wizard neck:

Scale
648mm/25.5"

a : Width at Nut
43mm

b : Width at Last Fret
56mm

c: Thickness at 1st
19mm

d : Thickness at 12th
21mm

Radius
400mmR

As far as the necks go, I used to like Wizards, but as I got better, I started liking fuller necks like the SA neck. To me, the Wizard feels faster at first, but my hands get tired more quickly. The fuller style neck on the SA is just as fast, especially if you have bigger hands - and more versatile, and better for playing chords in addition to single note stuff.

The ZR is a nice design, but I prefer non-locking trems like the SAT for lighter trem work. They stay in tune, and sound better (I think) and warble less. Don't write off the non-locking bridges as being inferior. A lot of the pro guys are switching over to non-locking trems.

But if you want 1 octave divebombs, the locking trem is the only way to go. I honestly never got used to the notchy feel of the ZR.

For a great double locking setup tutorial, go to ibanezrules dot com
04-26-2005 06:02 PM
lyconxero
Re: Ibanez S470

Oh, shoot! I take back what I said! I was thinking about the JS1200 and NOT the JS100. To my knowledge, the JS100 comes with a LO-TRS II bridge (and as we all know here on jemsite, that's like the worst Ibanez bridge EVER). On top of that, they're selling the guitar for like $660 new which is just insane. DEFINITELY go for the S470 (or opt for an S470DXQM) and you won't regret it.
04-26-2005 03:17 AM
btangel
Re: Ibanez S470

S470 is WAY better than the JS100 IMO. If u want to get a JS, get something non-JS100
04-26-2005 03:12 AM
lyconxero
Re: Ibanez S470

Both are excellent guitars, IMO. My suggestion is to get whichever one you like best. You can probably get a used JS100 for a decent price from evilbay or from someone here on jemsite. Personally, I'd go for the S470 just because I love the body shape and that ZR trem. So it really just depends on which one you like the most. Either way, I don't think you'll be disappointed.
04-26-2005 02:14 AM
Powerslave214
Re: Ibanez S470

Still torn between the S470 and the JS100. Anyone have experience with both?
04-22-2005 01:04 AM
Powerslave214
Re: Ibanez S470

Well I tried out a JS100 in another shop today. Pretty guitar, but whoever set it up obviously didn't know what the hell they were doing. I've rarely come across any guitar with as much fret buzz. I almost couldn't play it, it was buzzing so bad.
A different shop had another SA220 which was as smooth as the 1st one I'd tried. The setup guy there was pretty stoked about the ZR tremolo system, so the S470 still sounds like a winner to me in terms of bang for the buck.
04-21-2005 04:26 AM
btangel
Re: Ibanez S470

You gotta learn how to setup a guitar urself sooner or later. Especially double locking trems require adjustments every now and then just to keep it in the best playing condition.
04-21-2005 04:07 AM
lyconxero
Re: Ibanez S470

Well, when you buy a brand new guitar it comes with a little booklet that will tell you about the basics of the guitar and what to do (in general) to affect this or that. One of the guys at the guitar shop that I frequent showed me how to adjust the truss rod. As for messing with a floating trem as far as adjusting height, action, intonation, etc. I would definitely read the info that from Ibanezrules and also get a tech to do the initial adjustments if it's needed and WATCH THEM DO IT. I can't stress that point enough. It's really not that complicated once you've actually seen it done with your own two eyes. That made a lot more of a learning impact on me than literature from tons of different websites talking about doing the same thing.
04-21-2005 03:21 AM
Powerslave214
Re: Ibanez S470

For someone like myself who hasn't been playing all that long, what would you recommend in terms of doing a self set-up? I know I'm not touching the truss rod without knowing exactly what I'm doing first ;-)
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