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03-29-2006 12:26 AM
Flobanez
Re: 6 or 7

That is true.

I felt that way when I was jamming with a 6-stringer, we did alot of covers in d tuning as well as c, c# and b where I already had those notes on my 7-string, he would struggle to switch guitars, he had 4 guitars all tuned differently. The 7-string is an advantage, I told him
03-28-2006 12:39 PM
Drew
Re: 6 or 7

Of course, the other thing is unless you've spent some serious playtime on a 6, if you play a seven you'll never realize just how bad six stringers have it.
03-27-2006 12:02 PM
Roland
Re: 6 or 7

Writing songs that go from the low B to the 20-something fret on the high E is always fun - makes it impossible to play on six-strings, unless you've got 29+ frets.
03-26-2006 10:39 PM
buddroyce
Re: 6 or 7

If you've already got a 6 string a 7 string will just give you more variety. It realistically shouldn't take you very long to adjust to a 7 string provided that you are willing to open yourself up to the new 'wierd' feeling neck for the first 30-40 minutes. It took me about 30 minutes or so of doing string skipping exercises to get used to the neck. (that was something like 6-7 years ago when I bought my Universe[my first ibanez actually], since then I've picked up and gone through several 7's).

Seriously, aside from chugging riffs there's a whole lot you can do with a seven once you realize the potential.
03-26-2006 09:37 PM
Flobanez
Re: 6 or 7

Me too, the necks are so comfortable now, playing a 6-string, while I may pick up my strat every now and then, feels awkward a little, I am so used to the Ibanez 7 neck.

If you could start out on a 7, that would be cool IMO, especially if you want that low b without having to tune your 6-string down.
03-26-2006 07:12 PM
7 Dying Trees
Re: 6 or 7

7string? Go for it. I got one years ago, and pretty much unless forced to toherwise I now just play 7 strings. hardly ever touch a 6string anymore.

I wouldn't say it's harder, but you do need to make a few playing adjustments, and it'll take a month or 3 to really have it feel like second nature.

I actually also prefer the wider necks, and they do just feel more natural to play for some weird reason!
03-24-2006 09:00 PM
jdshredhead
Re: 6 or 7

yeah the only thing is tho .. is that i'm definitely not a beginner
03-24-2006 02:32 PM
Hobophobic
Re: 6 or 7

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Originally Posted by jdshredhead
so how did my thread get to talking abuot which kind of guitar to start on... its about wether or not i should get a 6 or 7 string or a car(for more money of course)
Because somebody said you shouldn't get a 7 if you're a beginner and the levee broke.
03-24-2006 09:17 AM
jim777
Re: 6 or 7

Quote:
Originally Posted by jdshredhead
so how did my thread get to talking abuot which kind of guitar to start on...
You know you're on Jemsite, right? If you don't stay involved, no thread stays on topic for more than 6 posts or so
03-24-2006 01:31 AM
jdshredhead
Re: 6 or 7

so how did my thread get to talking abuot which kind of guitar to start on... its about wether or not i should get a 6 or 7 string or a car(for more money of course)
03-24-2006 12:17 AM
Flobanez
Re: 6 or 7

I know alot of beginners that have picked up my seven and were lost because of the low b. To me, I don't see the low b as a hassle where I have to tell them just ignore the top string, and they can't somehow.....maybe they are meant to be 6-string players I guess. I love having the low b and I think the 7-string is a perfect instrument because you already have a 6-string in addition to that, the low b, it's perfect IMO.
03-23-2006 02:31 PM
Drew
Re: 6 or 7

Yeah, i know, Jim, which is what makes this discussion so amusing.

For me, that's where the real edge of a seven lies- sure, they rock for deep "chug" riffs, but you also get an extra 5th in any scale position, quite a bit more if you start sliding up and down the neck, and Rusty Cooley's "Seven Deadly Sins" CFH lesson was a total eye-opener, when he started talking about parallel scale shapes that were allowed due to that extra string.

Simply put, if you want to get into soloing, you cannot underestimate the advantage of having that extra string.

(though, I do still love my strat...)
03-23-2006 01:17 PM
jim777
Re: 6 or 7

Despite thinking a 6 might be easier for most potental guitarists to start on, I'm very pro-7 myself (as you know). It's only one more string, but it does change what you can do in so many ways. It may not be for everybody, but it certainly offers potential to every guitarist out there.
When I was much younger, every beginning guitar player sort of knew after a few months if they were going to be more of a "lead" guitarist, or a "rhythm" guitarist Every band had two guitarists, and keyboard players were few and far between (because Hammond B-3's were mountains of money and hard as hell to transport) Maybe it's still that way for guitarists, I don't really know. I think if you would see yourself as more of the "lead" type player, then there is a great potential upside to getting a 7. There's a lot more there than just the one string.

jim
03-23-2006 12:30 PM
Drew
Re: 6 or 7

I'm rather un-metal myself.

I guess I agree to you there, that it's not that 7's are harder than 6's, just there's less readily available material out there. So it comes down to two things - is your ultimate goal to play a seven string, and are you willing to seek out instruction/instructional material a bit more aggressively?

If you can answer yes to both, then a 7 makes sense. If not, then it's more debatable.

I really need to get on writing some beginner-level lessons for sevenstring.org, don't I?
03-23-2006 12:22 PM
jim777
Re: 6 or 7

Quote:
Originally Posted by Drew
Sure, few books do this, but if you're taking lessons, it takes a pretty lazy teacher not to help a student make that connection.
Dude, lessons aren't Metal! If you've got a teacher, then I agree: there's no reason why you shouldn't be able to start with a 7, or anything else in the musical universe. No one buys a flugelhorn and picks it up out of books. It's just been my experience that most guitarists start out on their own, and most people (not just musicians) tend to quit things that turn out to be difficult to master with no real hope of anything other than personal reward. Think of all the people you know who had piano lessons as kids but don't play anymore. I've had 100 or so students in my 30+ years on the guitar, and I've always told them "you can be good on the guitar in 3 months, but it may take your whole life to be great". It's just the nature of the beast. If you have the drive, that musician's soul, the number of strings shouldn't make a difference. It really depends on the student and the availability of a teacher, but iffy student and no teacher equals 6 string to me.
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