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04-20-2006 03:16 PM
Clemenzi
Re: "From scratch" custom-shops?

YOu might want to check out Stambaugh Designs(Stambaughdesigns.com). I just got an 8 made with Low be/High A, fanned fret(26"-23.75) and it is amazing. I don't know how to post picks, but here is a pic from my set.

http://ericclemenzi.com/content/medi...8%20String.jpg

He built everything from scratch. Total for all the features around $2200.
03-28-2006 11:02 AM
Demiurge
Re: "From scratch" custom-shops?

As far as the bridge goes, the Novax site does show a Strat and a Tele that have been retrofit with fanned-fret necks and intonated by staggering the bridge saddles on a their respective factory bridges. It only works, however, if the bridge is a certain distance from the neck pocket. If you're designing it yourself, I guess you can design it so you could do the same.

I don't know, though- is it even worth all that effort or money for a fanned-fret guitar? I'd rather parlay my $$$ into straight-up quality, materials, etc. than for an innovation of debatable effectiveness. Novax's guitars probably get their accolades because they're likely to be just well-made in the first place and not because of the benefits of fanned frets.
03-28-2006 10:24 AM
shredfreak
Re: "From scratch" custom-shops?

There is a Finish custom guitar shop called Amfisound. I think they can build basicly anything you want.

http://www.amfisound.fi/
03-28-2006 10:17 AM
Roland
Re: "From scratch" custom-shops?

How about a custom hardtail? Like the regular Ibanez hardtail RG's, but where each saddle sits on its own small metal plate, which you can then put in whatever intervals you like.
03-28-2006 06:12 AM
Jim Soloway
Re: "From scratch" custom-shops?

Quote:
Originally Posted by frankfalbo
Any scale differential "works" as a fan fret, it's just a matter of the degree of benefit. I think starting at 28" may be too long for the treble side, but that's just my opinion. It's a simple enough design that I could do it for more like $3000, but yes, it would take me a long time too. Plus besides enhancing the quilt top, I would farm out the finish.
Have you built a guitar with a fanned fretboard yet? If so I'm curious what you used for a bridge?
03-27-2006 11:05 PM
frankfalbo
Re: "From scratch" custom-shops?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Jim Soloway
I've taken a second look at this design. Assuming it could actually work (I think the scale length differential is probably too small), my guess is that anyone who's talented enough to build it would probably charge a minimum of $4500, probably more.
Any scale differential "works" as a fan fret, it's just a matter of the degree of benefit. I think starting at 28" may be too long for the treble side, but that's just my opinion. It's a simple enough design that I could do it for more like $3000, but yes, it would take me a long time too. Plus besides enhancing the quilt top, I would farm out the finish.
03-27-2006 12:23 PM
fettouhi
Re: "From scratch" custom-shops?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Demiurge
There's a pretty big dissertation on the idea behind fanned frets on the Novax website.
Don't remind me about dissertation I'm handing my in on Friday .

Regards

André



03-27-2006 12:09 PM
Demiurge
Re: "From scratch" custom-shops?

Quote:
Originally Posted by fettouhi
Wow that much for the neck and bridge alone! What's the benefit of having fanned frets?

Regards

André
There's a pretty big dissertation on the idea behind fanned frets on the Novax website. Not sure how much of it is metaphysical buggity-boo, but it sounds neat. The Charlie Hunter guitar is more of a hybrid than an extended-range guitar because of the separate string types (the bass side uses tape-wound strings) and pickups for each set of strings, but it could be finagled in some way.

As silly as it sounds, I've been tempted to buy a cheap six-string bass, swap out the bridge, pickups, do a fill-and-drill on the headstock and viola- 8-string guitar! The nut and bridge widths are similar, but the 34" scale (not to mention the funky fretting on the higher frets with the fretboard tapering) may be a bit cumbersome. Probably wouldn't work, but I'd love to experiment. I have a 30" six-string that goes down to a low G on a .058 alright and my hands are big enough to fret on it, so I'm curious.....
03-26-2006 10:12 AM
Roland
Re: "From scratch" custom-shops?

Quote:
Originally Posted by fettouhi
Wow that much for the neck and bridge alone! What's the benefit of having fanned frets?

Regards

André
Differing string tension.
03-26-2006 03:04 AM
fettouhi
Re: "From scratch" custom-shops?

Wow that much for the neck and bridge alone! What's the benefit of having fanned frets?

Regards

André



03-25-2006 04:44 PM
Jim Soloway
Re: "From scratch" custom-shops?

Quote:
Originally Posted by littlegreenman
As far as I know, Conklin is about the only company that has permission to use the fanned fret (novak) system, so they're probably your best bet. ...

I should reword my comment about conklin and the fanned fret system. As far as I know, they are the only company in north america consistently doing the fanned fret system commercially (other than novak). You must pay royalties as well as be accepted by novak to do the fanned fret system. Those are a couple of the reasons I don't use the fanned fret system.
Dave Wendler from electroCoustic has done a few fanned fretboards and I know that Saul Koll is working on one. They are paying royalties to Novax.

Given the custom fabrications and the royalties, a guitar built from this design would have to be pricey no matter who built it. Even buying the 8-string neck and bridge from Novax, you'd be in for $1860 befor you started building the guitar itself.

I've taken a second look at this design. Assuming it could actually work (I think the scale length differential is probably too small), my guess is that anyone who's talented enough to build it would proabably charge a minimum of $4500, probably more.
03-15-2006 03:46 PM
Demiurge
Re: "From scratch" custom-shops?

FWIW, Novax actually sells an 8-string fanned-fret neck and bridge, so all you'd need to do is have someone make a body (routed to slightly different specs), so that would increase the # of shops you could talk to. Only drawback, though, is that the neck alone is extremely expensive and the headstock is drilled for bass tuners for the lower 3 strings (because it's "Charlie Hunter" style).
03-15-2006 08:37 AM
Aris_T
Re: "From scratch" custom-shops?

Try http://www.nevbornguitars.com. Don't know if he makes guitars from scratch but you lose nothing by e-mailing him.
03-14-2006 04:44 PM
Roland
Re: "From scratch" custom-shops?

When you're picking up the custom orders again, will you be building fanned fret instruments as well if they're included as a spec in the order, Jeremy?
03-14-2006 04:41 PM
gitarguy
Re: "From scratch" custom-shops?

Quote:
Originally Posted by fettouhi
Try Christopher Woods.

Regards

André

Christopher isn't taking orders right now and the wait time for his work is really really looong.
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