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05-19-2006 02:43 AM
Cozi101
Re: staying in tune after trem use

Quote:
Originally Posted by ChopTart
When using a strat trem however, kilocentometers is more common
Lol I hear ya!
05-18-2006 02:18 AM
King Nothing
Re: staying in tune after trem use

Quote:
Originally Posted by SonataGuitarist
Cant do much better than this:
http://www.tremol-no.com/cleanandlube.asp

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Very nice!

This is where I got the chapstick idea from:
http://www.ibanezrules.com/tech/setup/sharpening.htm
It's in the last 3 paragraphs. Rich says Chapstick "will take a 95% trem return and instantly make it a 99%, and typically take a 98% and make it 100%." He also says "Thanks to Gary Brower for this tip, he's been using it on Chromeboy for years and it's always kept a smile on Joe's face ;o}"
http://www.ibanezrules.com/tech/setu..._stability.htm
that link also has a lot of stuff in it but it's basically the same as your link
05-18-2006 01:13 AM
surfdog777
Re: staying in tune after trem use

It takes me over a half-hour to change one set, but I stretch each string, starting out over the pickups and inching down to the nut, then retune, stretch again, retune, and stretch again pulling the everloving crap out of it until I no longer have to retune after a stretch. Usually about 3-4 passes does the trick. It's time consuming, a pain in the ass, and a definite pain in the fingertips....but the end result is worth it. Zero issues with tuning problems even with the wildest wang. I can drop the bar and press it against the pickguard with the strings totally flopped, and bring it back up and it's dead nuts. Everytime. The only thing that causes it to go out is temp changes between my home and our rehearsal studio (one is either hotter or cooler than the other).

Now, I know there are alot of people with different methods of stretching, but a good stretch on new strings is paramount in eliminating your tuning problems.

Tuning probs with the FR trem can be dealt with successfully if you have the following:
1. A good guitar, setup properly, with a good trem system.

2. Patience and the will to do a string change right.
05-18-2006 12:32 AM
SonataGuitarist
Re: staying in tune after trem use

Cant do much better than this:
http://www.tremol-no.com/cleanandlube.asp

\00/
05-18-2006 12:11 AM
The Extremist
Re: staying in tune after trem use

the chapstick is kinda like lubrication, it keeps the contact between the trem posts and the knife edges smooth, and to an extent, it probably helps prevent the knife edges from wearing out by reducing the friction. i'd recommend it.
05-17-2006 11:46 PM
Ironjose
Re: staying in tune after trem use

how does the chapstick works? does it really works? and what does it do?
JJ
05-17-2006 10:34 PM
dv8rulz
Re: staying in tune after trem use

Strech each string and tune until it stays in tune, then lock it down, re-tune. I never have problems with any of my guitars staying in tune. There is almost always a variance when you come back up with the tremlo I think it has something do with the spring tension.
05-17-2006 09:15 PM
ChopTart
Re: staying in tune after trem use

I think we have a new Standard Issue Measurement unit now

cM - Centometers - The unit of measure for string tuning. Floyd Rose and Edge bridges commonly use centometers. When using a strat trem however, kilocentometers is more common
05-17-2006 07:59 AM
toneboy
Re: staying in tune after trem use

Quote:
Originally Posted by Cozi101
Are we measuring pitch in cm these days?
Yes, "centometers".
05-17-2006 03:49 AM
brothersnowgone
Re: staying in tune after trem use

Quote:
Originally Posted by Cozi101
Are we measuring pitch in cm these days?
LOL yeah that threw me off. Your never going to have %1000 return, I've noticed I can't tell the string's are slightly out unless i plug in a tuner and see that way. if that's the only way you can tell then your trem is working pretty good.
05-17-2006 03:34 AM
Cozi101
Re: staying in tune after trem use

Are we measuring pitch in cm these days?
05-17-2006 02:39 AM
King Nothing
Re: staying in tune after trem use

Quote:
Originally Posted by rich2k4
is it normal to not be at 100% exact perfect tuning after using the whammy bar, when i use the lo pro on my jem, some strings come back perfect and a couple come back like a cm off maybe less

is this normal, or should every string come back perfect?

my trem is perfectly straight with the body and everything
Alright I understand you now. Yes, it is normal to be a cm off or less.
But if you want your normal to be less than a cm off or less, stretch the strings, lock your posts, add ChapStick on the posts where the knife edges touch, and check or knife edges to make sure they aren't too fat!
05-17-2006 01:42 AM
rich2k4
Re: staying in tune after trem use

hmm, idk since i don't seem to be hearing any out of tune strings.

i should clarify that the tuner is telling me that its a tiny tiny tiny bit off, but thats because my tuner is so precise.

i don't think it is that big of a deal.
05-17-2006 01:00 AM
King Nothing
Re: staying in tune after trem use

u might wanna try what i listed above. I've gotten perfect return after normal use. Crazy steve vai use sometimes gets it off a little
05-17-2006 12:57 AM
rich2k4
Re: staying in tune after trem use

the guitar still stays in tune after i use the trem guys, im jsut saying it just a smidgen off, like half a cm off on some strings, and this isn't noticble to the human hear really. im just asking if this is normal. im not saying that my guitar completely goes out of tune to the point where you can actually notice it.

i doubt any trem lets the guiutar come back 100% on the dot, perfect. im sure for a lot of you guys, if you check your guitars the strings will be a little off but it will be barely noticible to you. i mean thats why there are fine tuners there correct? because your guitar isn't expected to come back 100% EXACTLY how it was on the dot, to the nearest cm.

did i just answer my own question?
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