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09-09-2006 03:31 AM
robochimp
Re: Whos into this show - Supernova

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Originally Posted by rastachild View Post
i hear you screamindemon. while there are definitely some very cheesy aspects of the show and i find myself laughing at tommy, gilby, jason and navarro for some of their ridiculous comments, i do appreciate the intent of the show for the most part.

criticizing the contestants and calling them "sell out whores" is just stupid. especially when some of these guys have more rock credibility and experience than any of us.
Um, I'm 45 years old, and have approximately three hundred gigs under my belt. I've been playing for 29 years - semi-pro for over twenty of them. I'm not claiming to be any kind of super talent, but I know credibility when I see it. And I just don't see it anywhere on this show. Some of the contestants ARE good singers. What they aren't is ROCK.
ROCK is sweating your ass off night after night, playing music you believe in, going without sleep, money, even food sometimes, all in the interest of getting people to hear YOUR music. In other words, paying your dues. These singers are all after a shortcut to fame. Supernova is a last chance, desperate effort to hold onto it. That's a sellout whore in my book. You must've read a different book. That's cool. 'Stupid'? Maybe . I just call em as I see em. That's my reality. Feel free to enjoy your own version of it.
09-08-2006 03:41 PM
Rotti
Re: Whos into this show - Supernova

It's entertainment, nothing more. I like the show. Am I a big "Supernova fan"? no. Will I buy or even download a Supernova CD? nope. But it's still fun to watch.
I think the only people who would have a big hate on for the show would be people who are worried about being "cool". If it's popular then it's not cool. Once you grow up you tend to worry less about what is cool, what other people think, and trying to impress others with you coolness. The show is fun to watch. The house band is excellent. Better musicians than many people hating in this thread could ever hope to be. The music is mainstream radio pop rock. So what? If they were playing hardcore whatever noone would watch.
09-08-2006 03:05 PM
screamndemon69
Re: Whos into this show - Supernova

you are right on the head with it Rastachild. these singers are a good cross-section of singers from all over the world. i've been playing in clubs for 15yrs and these are talented singers. i've seen alot of untalented singers (i can't sing for diddly) and some good ones in clubs performing.
some of the contestants need more experience and some are ready. i might not like someones style or taste or even their voice but i do give them earned respect for being chosen to even participate in such an amazing oppurtunity. i only wish i had a chance like that.
09-08-2006 01:52 PM
rastachild
Re: Whos into this show - Supernova

i hear you screamindemon. while there are definitely some very cheesy aspects of the show and i find myself laughing at tommy, gilby, jason and navarro for some of their ridiculous comments, i do appreciate the intent of the show for the most part.

criticizing the contestants and calling them "sell out whores" is just stupid. especially when some of these guys have more rock credibility and experience than any of us.
09-08-2006 11:58 AM
screamndemon69
Re: Whos into this show - Supernova

i fit into the older rocker category but i feel i have both feet planted in what ROCK is, at least more so than some of the people that are 10 or more years younger than myself (i recently turned 35). i consistantly blow away younger guys that don't have a clue but think they know what ROCK is. the thing that is missed with most of them is experience and HEART. i'm far from the best player but the energy, attitude, commitment, passion and HEART i have, put what i do OVER what i see around time and time again. we set attendance records at every venue we play and i'm the youngest guy in the band by at least 10yrs. it's the heart, energy and fun attitude that we have and the passion for what we do that sets us apart from most of the other bands playing the same stuff we play (original, classic, southern, modern) which is most of the bands in our area.
i'm far from a poser. i grew up listening to metal when it was metal before the hair rock days. i still have my Iron Maiden albums - remember what an album is? i was rocking before Mtv which was a big killer of good music.
people rock in their own ways but the core of rock is attitude, passion and heart. these things need to be inspiring as well as presenting the talent you posess and not overstating your presence in the music but letting it breathe. most of the younger generation have grown up on rock music since the Nirvana days where most bands didn't even have guitar solos in their music. if i hear one more screammer that can't sing - i'm going to puke!!
SN is nothing special IMHO - but they do rock. i like the house band and am inspired by their performances far more than SN.
alot can be learned from your elders - if you don't think so, you won't get very far at all.
appreciate the fact that we can at least see some rockers on prime time TV a couple nights a week and not some of the dance and pop garbage that is being shoved down our throats on the tube day in and day out.
just my 2 cents
09-07-2006 11:58 PM
robochimp
Re: Whos into this show - Supernova

The whole show is just a big laugh to me.

As for the contestants, well, let me put it this way: The whole PREMISE of the show is screwed up from the git-go. Anyone who would fit in a band that prides itself on 'breaking the rules', 'non-conformity' or 'anti-establishment' ethics'- three of the the most basic tenets of rock, would never be on this show - including the band.

Rock was always supposed to be about rebellion. This show, and everyone involved with it, are completely fake, money-grubbing, fame-seeking attention whores. This show is basically ANTI-rock n roll.

Every single face I've seen on this show comes off as a complete sell-out whore who will do anything to be famous, principles, personal beliefs, and values be damned.

I'm sure all of the contestants will benefit from the exposure, as will the band supernova, in the short term.
(I can see it now on posters in dive bars all across America: "As seen on TV's Rockstar: Big-ass Storm!" etc. Just wait two years.) But all of their 'rock' credibility is shot to hell. Some of the contestants would have done well on American Idol, but that's not what this show SOLD itself as. Unfortunately, it's just a rippoff.

Hell, after all is said and done, they'll probably pick Shakira, and do Back in Black as their show stopper.

The only people on the show I have any respect for are the house band. They're pro's, they can play their asses off, and are the only ones who are being honest with themselves and the public.
09-07-2006 11:49 PM
robochimp
Re: Whos into this show - Supernova

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You would think they would just be glad that they are getting their face on TV, none of them are really that good.
I agree. Did any of them actually WRITE any of the hit's that made them famous? I laughed out loud when they called this a 'supergroup'. The only way I'd consider this a supergroup is if one of the members turns out to be able to actually fly .
09-07-2006 02:53 PM
rastachild
Re: Whos into this show - Supernova

i watch it every week, but then again, i sort of knew one of the singers, Patrice Pike. she's totally the real deal, an awesome singer with a great range. and she's been doing nothing but music since she was 12, which is probably more than can be said for most of the naysayers in this thread, lol.

the rest of the singers sound good to me as well, for rock. these guys have nice full ranges and most of them have enough growl to do what would be appropriate for supernova. and believe it or not, in the real world, image and stage presence are a huge concern when considering how successful a band is going to be. it sucks, but this is how the music business works.

the tour is also going to happen, it would be silly for it not to. think about all of the money they stand to make on merchandising and touring. and then think of all of the lawsuits they would have to fend off by cancelling already televised and confirmed tour dates.

and tommy hates motley crue (or at least vince neil). so much that he refused to even ride in the same bus with him on the last tour. motley crue is just another money making venture for tommy at this point. so why not do the same thing with his own, fresh out the box band that is guaranteed to be successful on one level or another. cd sales of aluminum? lol. the band is already a household name and they haven't even recorded an album yet. their success is guaranteed for as long as tommy lee wants to do it.

you guys can hate on the cheesiness of the show as much as you want, but it will not change the fact that supernova is already an instant success (just add water). and i agree with the fact that the original supernova tunes are lackluster at best. welcome to radio and mtv for the last 20 years. they will fit in perfectly. i just think that it is cool that some unknown will get a chance to make it in the music biz. and a lot of these singers have been around in bands for awhile and have an established local presence (i.e., not bedroom or shower singers). even if the band doesn't survive for a year, that singer now has a foot in the door and more opportunities available. more power to them. in fact, even the ones who have been eliminated will benefit from this if they work it right. how could you not benefit from having the entire world hear you perform?

but one thing i will agree on...the house band is insanely good. it's funny to hear sweep arpeggios and zakk wylde-style vibrato on something like 'rebel yell'. they let those guys go off and that's reason enough to watch.
09-07-2006 01:37 PM
Flobanez
Re: Whos into this show - Supernova

I watch it every now and then. I don't particularly care for it much, it isn't the worst show out there though, i've seen worse.
09-07-2006 01:34 PM
Demiurge
Re: Whos into this show - Supernova

[QUOTE=shredmaster;527617] i'm not even sure who this show is geared towards? ROCKERS? well, ROCKERS wouldn't watch this crap. posers? that's more like it. QUOTE]

The only people I know who watch the show are people who are older, out of touch, and thoroughly convinced that this insipid fashion show is really an accurate portrayal of authentic rock music. Maybe my problem with it is that it does accurately portray modern rock- a dog and pony show of tattoos, hair dye, and makeup that supercedes the music- and the reminder is painful.

My best analogy is that the show is like one of those cheap, plastic BC Rich guitars on the wall at guitar center- people who don't know better think it's edgy and radical, those who know better can pretty much see through the marketing ploy and therefore not take it seriously.
09-07-2006 01:33 PM
fettouhi
Re: Whos into this show - Supernova

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Originally Posted by screamndemon69 View Post
all good points but consider the band in question - cheeseNova, these are the things that are important to them, again CHEESE. this way they know they have a fan base that likes their band and or singer before they even have their first album recorded which translates to record sales and tickets for their tour - $$$.
i'm dissapointed at the material (SN) - nothing new, fresh or exciting.
i used to be a big Jane's fan and i am feeling let down the way Dave thinks he is all mighty nowadays. so sad. now he is jumping on the band wagon of SuperNova with his Panic Channel band for their tour. marketing.
we'll see how this plays out over the next year - they actually want to record with one of the singers that they "canned" last night so their commitment is most definitely in question.
This Supernova tour will never happen IMHO.

Regards

André



09-07-2006 12:31 PM
shredmaster
Re: Whos into this show - Supernova

what a waste of time. as someone said, the "band" ends when the show ends. it's full of posers. i'm not even sure who this show is geared towards? ROCKERS? well, ROCKERS wouldn't watch this crap. posers? that's more like it. teeny boppers? they're too into the rap crap and KORN garbage. the only 2 worth anything are tommy and jason, but i won't even watch for them; not into them. now what about one of the biggest posers ever....Dave N. what a @*#&! LOSER. "bring the rock....." what a piece of @#$! that jerk is. this is blunt but i don't get how these losers are anywhere near doing anything in music. he is worthy of working in GC......maybe! how he ever caught a break is beyond me where there are hundreds upon thousands of musicians out there who can smoke him in the blink of an eye with feel and natural talent. i don't get it. everyone up there is an idiot. even tommy lee is on the verge of being washed up...dude, no one cares anymore.
09-07-2006 11:08 AM
screamndemon69
Re: Whos into this show - Supernova

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Originally Posted by Demiurge View Post
Style-over-substance band that spends more at Hollywood parties than making music seeks style-over-substance singer that spends more time at Hot Topic than learning to sing. Perfect marriage, if you ask me.

If a *real* band were looking for a *real* singer, then they wouldn't use "yelling in the microphone while jumping into the crowd for every song" as an indicator of worthiness. The tests would be fundamental stuff like "showing up on time," "helping with the gear," "not being annoying on a 6-hour bus ride," "keep Dave Navarro away from the heroine," and "not getting the clap." Let the viewers vote on that.
all good points but consider the band in question - cheeseNova, these are the things that are important to them, again CHEESE. this way they know they have a fan base that likes their band and or singer before they even have their first album recorded which translates to record sales and tickets for their tour - $$$.
i'm dissapointed at the material (SN) - nothing new, fresh or exciting.
i used to be a big Jane's fan and i am feeling let down the way Dave thinks he is all mighty nowadays. so sad. now he is jumping on the band wagon of SuperNova with his Panic Channel band for their tour. marketing.
we'll see how this plays out over the next year - they actually want to record with one of the singers that they "canned" last night so their commitment is most definitely in question.
09-06-2006 01:39 PM
ScottB
Re: Whos into this show - Supernova

p.s.

Dave Navarro sucked when he hogged the front of the stage during Storm's performance of Suffragette City last night. Ms. Large should have knocked him of the edge into the crowd. I didn't care for her performance either. Her switching between octaves during the verses was tiring to listen to.

~Scott
09-06-2006 01:29 PM
ScottB
Re: Whos into this show - Supernova

I watch the show if I'm home, for nothing more than the entertainment factor. Where else can you find 3 (4 if you count Navarro) super-egocentric, marginally talented, self annointed rock-gods making fools of themselves on TV and the www?

Once the show is over, I couldn't care less what happens to SN. I'm not into their style of music or their fan base.

~Scott
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