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09-20-2006 04:44 AM
GilkyBear
Re: Guitar in the future.
The kicker will be when someone does something awesome on this thing, which someone definitely will do. Then EVERYONE will just HAVE to have one to get "that sound". Didn't I read that Steve was experimenting with a few totally new types of trems, maybe for the 20th Anni?
09-19-2006 11:20 PM
ChopTart
Re: Guitar in the future.
I think its a cool idea. Of course it's going to be different, because there's always going to be some kind of give and take. Having the metal tails flipped the other way would probably make it easier to to trem drops as you said. I'm all for seeing this thing in action (vids!). For all the naysayers, at least they're trying something new. If everyone worked on the "if it ain't broke, don't fix it" idea, we wouldn't even have the OFR.

I think that would be a perfect addition to a sustainer guitar. Picking wouldn't be such a huge deal because hammer ons could do more with driven strings, and then it could be used for cool string pitch slides I'm thinking Ibanez RG model with a sustainiac or fernandes, plus one of those bridges
09-19-2006 10:34 PM
NeglectedField
Re: Guitar in the future.
Nice tone, and those are some amazing pictures. Of all 'butcherings' of a guitar that looks done the neatest. The curvature of the arch top on the guitar really comes through in the photos.

One thing that does concern me though is the height of those arms. Might be an issue when in storage...
09-19-2006 12:02 PM
SPENSPUMA
Re: Guitar in the future.
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Originally Posted by Ibanez-Mag View Post
Yes, it is hard to do dive-bombs and pick at the same time. But I don’t really see it as a big problem, /Magnus

Will be a problem though if you do dive bombs and pick at the same time regularly...as per Vai, Satriani etc etc.


I still am not convinced anyone could make use of this as it is......i 'would' be slightly more convinced if it were to somehow have a removable link bar behind the individual string trems that was attached to a wammy bar so you could actually dive and it would dive ALL the strings at once....but then be able to remove the bar if you didnt need it....a little bit like what ibanez have on one of their new guitars...its a U shaped metal thing that slots into either side of the trem so you use it without a bar...you just pull on the U shaped metal thing either up or down.
09-19-2006 11:40 AM
marianozz
Re: Guitar in the future.
Theres compromises only if you think of it as a "trem equiped guitar" (like people thinking of it as a floyd replacement)...

I see it like quite a big change to the instrument itself... taking it to a whole different direction in terms of playing (and listening!)...
09-19-2006 11:24 AM
Ibanez-Mag
Re: Guitar in the future.
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Originally Posted by C.Thep View Post
Sorry to get off topic, but, You have Ibanez connections?
Not to pat my own back in anyway, but yes I do.
As some other guys pointed out already am I endorsed by Ibanez and are also working with doing clinics for them here in Scandinavia.


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Originally Posted by madpickin03 View Post
Issit possible for you to get a shot at the cavity, or just the trem alone. I really would like to see the internal side of it.

I’m waiting for an answer from the maker for if it is okay to show the inside, I don’t really know if that is okay now. Patent and stuff like that.
And I don’t have a tremolo that is not installed in a guitar at this time.

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Originally Posted by marianozz View Post
A sustainer would make perfect sense with this... with great left hand technique and the right hand fingers on the individual "bars" theres no limit to the sounds it would come out of it... lol, it would look weird, like the 1st time i saw someone playing a stick...

Thanx for sharing Mag
Yes, I think you are right. My imagination just runs bananas when I think of all the new and cool sounds it can make. There will be compromises involved, like not having a traditional arm, but I don’t see it as a problem. There are compromises with everything, with a Floyd do I lose the benefits of a fixed bridge, with humbuckers do I lose the benefits of a singlecoil, with distortion do I lose the benefits of a clean tone and so on, everything is a compromise.
But looking at what you gain instead makes life easier :-)

/Magnus
09-19-2006 09:00 AM
Planeflux
Re: Guitar in the future.
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Originally Posted by C.Thep View Post
Sorry to get off topic, but, You have Ibanez connections?
He's endorsed.
09-19-2006 08:55 AM
marianozz
Re: Guitar in the future.
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Originally Posted by Ibanez-Mag View Post
No, I have no idea of where the original bridge is, this is not my guitar.
The company installed it there, good choice of guitar to try it in.
It was cool to see that it was in a RGA sins I have several RGA’s here to compare the tone with, and there are no difference between the original bridge and this one.

I will have Ibanez send me an RG body that’s has no carving for a bridge at all when I will install one of these in my guitars. I will also install a Sustainer driver in that guitar (because that would give even more cool ways to use this).

The company is called Sonoinvent, by the way.
www.sonoinvent.com
And the tremolo is called TremoLogic.

/Magnus
A sustainer would make perfect sense with this... with great left hand technique and the right hand fingers on the individual "bars" theres no limit to the sounds it would come out of it... lol, it would look weird, like the 1st time i saw someone playing a stick...

Thanx for sharing Mag
09-19-2006 07:18 AM
madpickin03
Re: Guitar in the future.
Issit possible for you to get a shot at the cavity, or just the trem alone. I really would like to see the internal side of it.
09-18-2006 11:45 PM
psychoshredder
Re: Guitar in the future.
thank you for sharing with us,
IMHO, the new trem design looks ugly.

For me, I'll stay with old trusty Floyd rose system, ( LO pro/ edge for ibanez).
The Floyd is almost 20 years now? and still being used until today. If stratocaster can last that long, I hope floyd will too.
09-18-2006 10:31 PM
Awakened Sleeper
Re: Guitar in the future.
He's Magnus Olssen. Check out his site, with his beyond awesome guitar collection.
09-18-2006 09:40 PM
C.Thep
Re: Guitar in the future.
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Originally Posted by Ibanez-Mag View Post
I will have Ibanez send me an RG body that’s has no carving for a bridge at all when I will install one of these in my guitars. I will also install a Sustainer driver in that guitar (because that would give even more cool ways to use this).

/Magnus
Sorry to get off topic, but, You have Ibanez connections?
09-18-2006 12:55 PM
tTz
Re: Guitar in the future.
Good point there, you're right about being unable to behind the nut bends being up only. I forgot about that.
09-18-2006 12:53 PM
Ibanez-Mag
Re: Guitar in the future.
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Originally Posted by tTz View Post
I really like the idea of that, though I'm not sure how revolutionary it really is, considering that loads of players already to behind-the-nut bends to get similar sounds (from what I understand of your description). It definitely looks like an easier way to do it, anyway, than reaching around behind the nut, and it would be interesting to have a play about with one.
The thing that makes it a bit different is that you can bend both up and down, you can't do that with behind the nut things.
And very easily affect as many strings as you like.

/Magnus
09-18-2006 12:39 PM
tTz
Re: Guitar in the future.
I really like the idea of that, though I'm not sure how revolutionary it really is, considering that loads of players already to behind-the-nut bends to get similar sounds (from what I understand of your description). It definitely looks like an easier way to do it, anyway, than reaching around behind the nut, and it would be interesting to have a play about with one.
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