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03-15-2007 02:19 PM
Johnny Two Tone
Re: how to darken a light rosewood fretboard on my rga121?

Just for bragging's sake my RGA121's fretboard is dark as all hell - almost ebony dark . It was only ever so slightly less dark before I gave it a nice cleaning with lemon oil. I haven't slapped on any fretboard conditioner yet. I'll do that next time I change the strings.

What I want to know is: Is there any fancy trick to getting the smoothest frets ever? I'd like to find something that I can use on the frets of all my guitars to get them smooth as butter.
03-15-2007 12:47 PM
JoshuaLogan
Re: how to darken a light rosewood fretboard on my rga121?

just wanted to let you guys know the roche thomas bore oil worked extremely well. very nice stuff. I'll get some pics of the guitar soon
03-14-2007 02:40 AM
JoshuaLogan
Re: how to darken a light rosewood fretboard on my rga121?

actually, you're not supposed to put oil on the fretboard all the time. apparently it can cause the wood to swell and even pop out frets in bad cases. you're only supposed to do it a few times a year.... less in humid climates...
03-13-2007 04:32 PM
leec
Re: how to darken a light rosewood fretboard on my rga121?

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Originally Posted by Ayrton View Post
Here is the best example of what scratch remover will do for light or bland rosewood. I follow this up with some bore oil or similar.

My brand spankin' new Les Paul.
Wow, that looks very stark! I'll give this a try.
03-13-2007 10:05 AM
Dee
Re: how to darken a light rosewood fretboard on my rga121?

Maybe he likes it like that? Either way, the wood won't be nothing but extra protected.
03-13-2007 09:44 AM
GAZ
Re: how to darken a light rosewood fretboard on my rga121?

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Besides, who lets it just sit on the surface without wiping away the excess? Anyone who does that isn't using it properly.
Read the post above and he says he wipes it over but not every time he sprays on the oil ?!?!?!?! That's not wiping away the excess in my book !!!!
03-13-2007 09:23 AM
Dee
Re: how to darken a light rosewood fretboard on my rga121?

Then use Fret Doctor. It actually cleans strings and makes dead strings sound a lot fresher, it's what I use to clean mine with. I have had the same strings on for months and they still sound OK.

Besides, who lets it just sit on the surface without wiping away the excess? Anyone who does that isn't using it properly.
03-13-2007 05:33 AM
GAZ
Re: how to darken a light rosewood fretboard on my rga121?

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i dissagree with that , like i said i keep mine soaked . I find i have to clean it less when it is soaked then when it gets all dry . I do give it a good wipe down every now and then but not every time i spray on the oil . besides i like how slick the lemon oil makes the neck on my guitar .

it may turn out that you do loose some tone but not for my case . i use huge strings and all my guitars have jumbo frets so the fretboard has little to do with my playing , other then i dont want it to feel sluggish by being all dry .
Well, I'm amazed, but if you want some real horror stories about overuse of fretboard/Lemon Oils do a search on Google. If you're using that much your wound strings, huge or not must be as dead as a Dodo too.
03-12-2007 10:31 PM
j.arledge
Re: how to darken a light rosewood fretboard on my rga121?

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Um, you've missed my point. It's the remainder that stays on the surface that will cause the problems if not wiped off thoroughly ! That's what I'm talking about. I've seen some guitars with horrible oily dirty fretboards because the excess hasn't been wiped off and another application has been applied over the top repeatedly. The fingerboard should be virtually dry to the touch with a satin look. If not you'll experience the problems I mentioned earlier, the excess will effectively dampen the resonance of the rosewood and just attract dirt.

i dissagree with that , like i said i keep mine soaked . I find i have to clean it less when it is soaked then when it gets all dry . I do give it a good wipe down every now and then but not every time i spray on the oil . besides i like how slick the lemon oil makes the neck on my guitar .

it may turn out that you do loose some tone but not for my case . i use huge strings and all my guitars have jumbo frets so the fretboard has little to do with my playing , other then i dont want it to feel sluggish by being all dry .
03-12-2007 01:26 PM
GAZ
Re: how to darken a light rosewood fretboard on my rga121?

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I disagree.

The fretboard will only soak up what it can, the rest will stay on the surface.
Um, you've missed my point. It's the remainder that stays on the surface that will cause the problems if not wiped off thoroughly ! That's what I'm talking about. I've seen some guitars with horrible oily dirty fretboards because the excess hasn't been wiped off and another application has been applied over the top repeatedly. The fingerboard should be virtually dry to the touch with a satin look. If not you'll experience the problems I mentioned earlier, the excess will effectively dampen the resonance of the rosewood and just attract dirt.
03-12-2007 12:35 PM
Dee
Re: how to darken a light rosewood fretboard on my rga121?

I disagree.

The fretboard will only soak up what it can, the rest will stay on the surface.

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Don't concern yourself with "oversaturating" the wood. There isn't that much air space in it. This isn't Balsa wood we are using here. If it won't take any more, it is full, like a beer mug. Any additional oil will simply wipe off.

~ Ed Boyle
03-12-2007 11:27 AM
GAZ
Re: how to darken a light rosewood fretboard on my rga121?

Rosewood (which can be several different species of tree) does vary a lot in colour and grain, especially on Ibanez guitars for some reason. A word of warning, use fingerboard oils sparingly and only when necessary, Over use will result in slight loss of tone and sustain, and you'll end up with a fingerboard that gets 'cruddy' very quickly ! The wood will only absorb a tiny amount, any excess should be removed completely.If the wood is still light after an application of lemon oil or equivalent, the only option to permanently darken it is a wood dye/stain, which I know Fender have used in the past to get their 'very red' rosewood fingerboards. Personally I'd live with it.
03-12-2007 12:17 AM
Ayrton
Re: how to darken a light rosewood fretboard on my rga121?

I want to point out that the scratch stain is not a replacement for lemon oil or any other conditioner. I just use it to darken the wood, then use conditioner.

http://www.beafifer.com/boredoctor.htm
03-11-2007 11:43 PM
j.arledge
Re: how to darken a light rosewood fretboard on my rga121?

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Originally Posted by Ayrton View Post
Here is the best example of what scratch remover will do for light or bland rosewood. I follow this up with some bore oil or similar.

My brand spankin' new Les Paul.
that looks a lot better imo , i usually keep my rosewood boards soaked in lemon oil but i think i may try that .
03-11-2007 11:08 PM
Dee
Re: how to darken a light rosewood fretboard on my rga121?

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Thanks, guys. I did a little research and found out that bore oil is about the best thing you can use on the wood. and the only real options I found were Fret Doctor and Roche Thomas Fretboard Oil. I got the Roche Thomas stuff since it was cheap and supposed to be very good.. even recommended by guys like John Suhr

I think it's going to work well, because I've noticed over the last week that spots on the fretboard have slightly been darkening where I've been playing a lot... I'm guessing some oil on my fingertips got into the board a bit... so if I am seeing a difference from that, I bet the bore oil will work really well... should be here monday I think
Fret Doctor is GREAT stuff. Give it a try sometime. BTW, not to be an ass, but these oils don't "darken" the wood, they merely restore the original colour. A light board is just dry, basically.
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