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06-04-2007 02:48 PM
Inzane
Re: Need Noob Help: What's a good first amp for my budget?

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Originally Posted by screamndemon69 View Post
How do you like it?
Well, I'm not very qualified to answer this yet. This is my first amp of course, and even my guitar (my RG20th) is my very first electric guitar. So EVERYTHING is new to me. How to make sounds on the guitar, playing with the pickup selector, etc. Let alone the effects on the amp.



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Originally Posted by neptoess View Post
EDIT: nvm, you got a roland
See, I knew I'd disappoint someone.

I was looking at the Peavey Valveking 112 combo. It was a little more money than the 30X (close to a couple hundred CDN$ more here) and didn't have as many features. I figure the 30X probably won't be my last amp and even if I buy something else I will probably keep the Cube anyway because its just so nice in its size and weight for portability.
06-04-2007 02:31 PM
jemplayer55
Re: Need Noob Help: What's a good first amp for my budget?

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Originally Posted by Inzane View Post
Did you have any specific recommendations in that area?
Check out a Toneworks AX1500G..... not half bad tones & effects. Plus It won't break your wallet. (usually in the $200.00 range) or check the evilbay. The AX3000g is slightly more versatile a $250.00. These are pretty user friendly and not too complicated to tweak. (Both for the price are a pretty good "bang" for the buck!

There are much better ones, but they increase in price pretty quickly. You just need to check some out and compare them. Tone is pretty subjective..... what I like, you may not. Just remember each has it's own drawbacks and good points as well.
06-04-2007 01:39 PM
neptoess
Re: Need Noob Help: What's a good first amp for my budget?

you can get a valveking combo, they're very nice

EDIT: nvm, you got a roland
06-04-2007 01:30 PM
screamndemon69
Re: Need Noob Help: What's a good first amp for my budget?

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Originally Posted by Inzane View Post
Well, I finally made my decision and settled for a Roland Cube 30X. (I know that'll probably disappoint some of you. )

Jason
How do you like it?

I have a Micro Cube and a Cube 60 in my teaching studio and I'm ditching the Cube 60 for a Fender G-Dec 30. The Cube 60 has a horrible, static-like sound that kills the tone. The Micro is cool for what it is and being able to operate on batteries makes it more useful for me in a pinch - I can handle the extra noise for that price on the Micro as opposed to hearing the noise from an amp that is over 3x the price.

I love my Tech 21 Trademark 10. Great cleans, great distortion, small amp for fair price.

For fun I do plan to get the Zakk micro stack. No justification other than it seems like it would be a fun amp to own and I've wanted a Micro Marshall stack since I was a kid.
06-04-2007 12:45 PM
Inzane
Re: Need Noob Help: What's a good first amp for my budget?

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Originally Posted by jemplayer55 View Post
You could also buy a nice modeling pedal..... dial in that "satch" tone
Did you have any specific recommendations in that area?
06-01-2007 07:16 PM
jemplayer55
Re: Need Noob Help: What's a good first amp for my budget?

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Originally Posted by Inzane View Post

PS - Does anyone know if its possible to get any 'Satch tones out of one of these? (anything remotely close?)

Jason
You could also buy a nice modeling pedal..... dial in that "satch" tone and have room for your own! Including a ton of built in effects.
06-01-2007 07:02 PM
racerevlon
Re: Need Noob Help: What's a good first amp for my budget?

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I second the comment about Crate. Despite the fact that most of their solid state stuff is junk, they often produce a few gems here and there.

I have a 1995 Crate Vintage Club VC50H 50w (EL84 powered) head that I use, and it's great! It can very bluesy to very metalish. And you know what? I paid only $400 for the half-stack. AWESOME deal. However, they don't make them anymore, so you're gonna have to find one used (using e-bay, etc).



+10 I had a Crate Vintage 30 combo that was plenty loud and crunchy (4 x ECC83, 4 x EL84). I loved that thing--wish I'd never sold it...
06-01-2007 11:52 AM
Inzane
Re: Need Noob Help: What's a good first amp for my budget?

Well, I finally made my decision and settled for a Roland Cube 30X. (I know that'll probably disappoint some of you. )

But the price was decent and its features and power level should be enough to keep me happy for at least a year... (6 months?). Or whenever this gear-whore bug nags at me again.

Here's some specs:
http://www.***************.com/produ...OSM?sku=487032

Got it at a local mom & pop music shop for $300 CDN.

Even if I end up buying something bigger/badder/better down the road I would probably keep this Cube anyway because of its portability.

One of the new features the 30X has over the '30' it replaced is the "Power Squeezer" function which limits the output to 2W. If you ask me they should've named it the "Wife Pleaser".

PS - Does anyone know if its possible to get any 'Satch tones out of one of these? (anything remotely close?)

Jason
05-26-2007 09:10 PM
microdmitry
Re: Need Noob Help: What's a good first amp for my budget?

Dialing in an MK IV is no harder than dialing in a Fender or Marshall. Channel controls are nearly the same (except there are two knobs for gain). Sure, there are three channels, but they don't interfere with each other. Most of the complexity is on the back and it's related to the power amp (i.e. whether you want it in triode mode, what kind of contour you like) - those you set and forget the first day.

And TOL100 handles low, med, high and super-high gains better than any other amp I've used, including the ones I've built myself. On low gain it sounds like a Fender, on high gain it sounds like a modded Marshall. If you're shooting for Vox on low-med gain and Recto on high gain, there's always Rocktron Vendetta which is designed by the same dude.
05-26-2007 08:49 PM
NEWYEARKID
Re: Need Noob Help: What's a good first amp for my budget?

All companies amps have an inherent sound based on their design/components-for me it really is that simple. I only play tube amps and they fall into two categories a good one(good working order..no issues/problems) or a bad one: this is then subdivided into three groups- low gain clean amp like fenders/voxes, medium gain like stock marshalls and finally the modern high gain amps like Mesa/Soldano/Bogner/Jsx/5150s. I understand your comments on tone in a store versus a rehersal with the band. A sound thats awesome by itself at low volume never works onstage-you have to cut the gain/low end turn up the mids and treble or you'll get lost in the mix. Guys that use a very scooped sound get buried onstage-you need midrange. The simpler an amp the less can go wrong and the easier it is to dial in one awesome sound-I'm not a fan of Mesa Boogie for this very reason-dialing in a Mk III or IV is a nightmare. Theres a reason why so many bands use basic marshall tube heads or mesa rectifiers-its very easy to get a good sound quickly.
05-26-2007 05:45 PM
Phishphood42
Re: Need Noob Help: What's a good first amp for my budget?

Save up a bit more and wait for a cheap mk III on ****. It is definitely better than spider, cube, and crate. I've played the vintage club and its good, but a mesa would be better
05-26-2007 04:51 PM
shogun
Re: Need Noob Help: What's a good first amp for my budget?

if you just want it for jamming with other guitarists and practicing get the roland cube 30 x... it smokes any amp modeling combo ive heard.. you can put them on 10 and you get no feedback or bottoming out.. they sound great for the price..
05-26-2007 03:44 PM
newbieguitarmaker
Re: Need Noob Help: What's a good first amp for my budget?

I hate spiders.... and the spiders you squish, lol. I think the crate sounds good, I've always liked crates for the price, reliability and sound
05-26-2007 03:38 PM
microdmitry
Re: Need Noob Help: What's a good first amp for my budget?

I wish it were as simple as just playing a few chords and notes. Thing is, how the amp sounds also depends on the volume, on the room you're in, on what you have dialed in, on how the amp is positioned relative to you and on what you're playing even (i.e. the same amp will sound completely different with different background tracks). In other words, there are lots of factors. You will not figure out if the amp is decent or not in Guitar Center. You will have to spend a couple of weeks with it.

Then there's your hearing. I've had many great amps over the years and I've noticed one thing. Without touching the knobs, I sometimes love the amp one day and hate it the next. It's the same sound, same everything. The only thing different is the listener.

These are the kinds of things your amp choice depends on. So you should buy a tube amp that you KNOW is good.
05-26-2007 02:29 PM
NEWYEARKID
Re: Need Noob Help: What's a good first amp for my budget?

The Peavey classic 30 is a great amp with the right pedals in front of it and has a very good effects loop. The tube Laneys can be found used for that price range..VC30 is a very good amp. A used fender tube amp can be picked up at that price. The Vox solid state 30 or 60 amps sound very good .
I'm not familiar with whats the prices are in Canada on anything but you should be able to find most of the brands mentioned in this thread. If you could tell us the style of music you're playing it would help. Don't get to caught up in gear right now just make sure the action on your guitar is comfortable for you and its properly intonated-you're gonna be spending a lot of time on it.
Your parents gave you the biggest single factor in your sound ever-your hands-timing, attack, pitch, note choice, clarity(muting is the single most important thing you'll ever learn if you 're going to play with high gain/high volume) are all 100% you-Vai, Satriani and Andy Timmons sound like themselves through any quality amp. You'll know the right amp in 5 minutes..hit a chord and see if the sound is balanced and fades out evenly..play a few notes and see if the sound is too trebly /thin or bassy/muddy? Do the notes die out too soon...poor sustain? Is the sound punchy? Do the note pop out of the speakers? Theres nothing worse than being able to pick very cleanly/quickly on an acoustic and when you plug into an amp it sounds like theres a time zone between when you hit the strings and the notes come out. There are no Noobs on this or any other board-We all started out the same way-Don't let anyone tell you otherwise. Good luck-let us know how it turns out.
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