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02-10-2010 03:12 PM
Hikey Mikey
Re: J customs In Aus
I don't agree with him either, but that's just because I am a consumer of guitar gear who has, from time to time, been interested in an Ibanez that isn't available here in the US. It just seems counter-intuitive to not sell me something I want to buy. But, if I owned a brand, I would probably do whatever I could to build it up and protect it. And we often make irrational buying decisions, so maybe they should be allowed to make some irrational selling ones.

Oh, and I just wanted to point out that Matthew does state that he isn't a big decision maker at Hoshino USA, but his perspective fits Hoshino Gakki's recent actions.

Peace

Mike
02-10-2010 03:01 PM
Jack Secret
Re: J customs In Aus
This is very true. If someone wants a dvd movie or a video game or, hell, anything from anywhere, there's gonna be someone to import it. Can't say I agree with [email protected] about it keeping Ibanez's "dignity". Isn't being in Guitar Center undignified enough?

Now, this isn't 40 years ago with no internet and we wouldn't even be aware what was out in other countries and the next state over felt thousands of miles away, much less a country like Japan. We're in a worldwide age and there's no real reason to confine things to territories anymore. They should be glad that people outside of Japan want guitars like JCustoms. Wait till they make a JEM that's Japan only. I don't see how it helps a product keep it's value, either. Bragging rights? What the hell is he even talking about? That's just being childish if it resorts to that.
02-10-2010 02:50 PM
Hikey Mikey
Re: J customs In Aus
I posted earlier in this thread about comments from HUSA employees regarding Hoshino's distribution policies. I decided to find the posts I was talking about (easier with Google than with the Ibanez forum's broken search function!):

In the thread "Grab The Popcorn Folks" (http://forum.ibanez.com/Default.aspx?g=posts&m=446031), [email protected] wrote:

"IMO not offering everything everywhere (including certain countries) helps hold a products value, when you get something rare, or something that not everyone can get, you can brag more."

Then later:

"how do you think them europeans feel, maybe they want an X...The point I was trying to make is, not everyone gets everything for a reason. I don't make decisions and I have NO way of influencing those who do...

hypothetical...

I have 2 products A-is blue and B-Green

I realease A to half the population and B to the other half,

those in A's area get A, then want B and vice versa, they find ways to do it

People in A's area that have B, are very proud of themselves and vice versa

this goes on for a year when I develope C-purple D-yellow

and do it again

Its not saturating a market till your product is worthless, its making your brand last, its buying time to develope more its SCIENCE!

AND AT THE END!
we make guitars people want and can be proud of, and would like to do so till the end of time, NO not everyone will like everything that comes out, and no not everyone will be happy with what their country gets.

bottom line, the grass is always greener!"



So his theory as it applies to this issue of restricted J-Custom availability is that if people want them badly enough, they will "find ways" to get them and thus feel proud that they have something that's not available in their country.

Peace

Mike
02-10-2010 07:20 AM
Pantera95
Re: J customs In Aus
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Originally Posted by mcmurray View Post
Kurosawa or Importstrings.

See this thread mate: http://www.jemsite.com/forums/f16/7-...z-99388-2.html
Thanks man ill check it out
Anyone got a RG550 for sale in Australia?
02-10-2010 06:45 AM
mcmurray
Re: J customs In Aus
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But if know one knows where i can get one, ill just still to the j custom
Any ideas?
Kurosawa or Importstrings.

See this thread mate: http://www.jemsite.com/forums/f16/7-...z-99388-2.html
02-10-2010 05:52 AM
Pantera95
Re: J customs In Aus
Who knows where i could get a RG550. I never see them on **** in Australia.
If i can find a Red one or a Dessert Sun Yellow one, ill grab it maybe instead of my J custom.
But if know one knows where i can get one, ill just still to the j custom
Any ideas?
02-04-2010 02:52 AM
mcmurray
Re: J customs In Aus
Man this is some sad news!

Oh well, looks like I'll be having holidays in Japan whenever I'm in the market for a 'custom.
02-03-2010 04:50 PM
Rich
Re: J customs In Aus
The part about Japanese dealers no longer being allowed to export came from this board. I'm in the process of confirming it with Ichyscratchy, but it fits right in with where they have been going policy wise.
02-03-2010 04:39 PM
IbanezDaemon
Re: J customs In Aus
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It seems to be. Rich is an authorized Ibanez seller now or something, and I assume gets his information straight from the company.
Yup. If you hear this from Rich take it as read basically. Hikey Mikey has also made a good post here on the topic, see his post above. Maybe Ibanez are trying to keep the JC range that little bit more exclusive, in fact weren't the JC's always supposed to be like that anyway. For me the early JC's were more alluring eg Metal, Gear, Arch , Gold, Art etc. Are they better guitars than the latest/current crop of JC's? Ostensibly the new one's have better materials/build quality? Is it a good or bad thing that the J Custom range is going to remain that little more elusive and hence desirable, albeit at a price, to your average non Japanese Ibanez player/collector?
02-03-2010 03:51 PM
wilch
Re: J customs In Aus
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But is that actual fact? J customs are such great guitars. It'd suck if we cant get them anymore
It seems to be. Rich is an authorized Ibanez seller now or something, and I assume gets his information straight from the company.
02-03-2010 07:59 AM
Jack Secret
Re: J customs In Aus
Well, we can still get them...just not new.
02-03-2010 07:38 AM
Pantera95
Re: J customs In Aus
But is that actual fact? J customs are such great guitars. It'd suck if we cant get them anymore
02-03-2010 04:37 AM
wilch
Re: J customs In Aus
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Originally Posted by Rich View Post
You might want to expedite that. Ibanez has banned the retail export of Ibanez guitars from Japan, in effect 1/25/10.
see quote.
02-03-2010 02:09 AM
Pantera95
Re: J customs In Aus
So when is this "export ban" going to start. or has it already started?
02-02-2010 05:05 PM
Hikey Mikey
Re: J customs In Aus
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Originally Posted by IbanezDaemon View Post
You'd have to wonder what Ibanez's thinking is on this matter. I mean, they are a business and all businesses work on profit. It doesn't make sense to limit your market like this. . . .
Recent posts on the Ibanez forum by HUSA employees suggest that Hoshino intentionally creates desirability and exclusivity by restricting availability, thereby increasing profits.
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