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So I just went to Rondo Music's website to look at some 8-strings and something caught my eye. Under the categories '9-String Guitars' was were 8-String Guitars used to be. Nothing is up on the page yet, but what do you guys think of the idea of a 9-String? Do you think it'll be a bassier string or maybe a high A string?
 

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i wish they would censor out EMG like they do to evilbay on here. it would be so nice to not see people putting EMG's in their guitars just because they want to be as metal as possible. heres an idea, play metal on an Air Classic haha now THAT would be cool. and as for the 9 string, id buy one if the put the high A on there instead of a low D or whatever it would be haha im considering putting the high A on my 7 string and putting it in drop C.......
 

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EMG makes a great product. It's not for everyone, but there's no denying it's abilities. It seems most Jemsiters are DiMarzio fan boys. Look at some of Petruccis DiMarzio ads with his fruity hair and designer shades. Now who should be banned??
 

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Excuse me? I hope you're kidding.. If not, then: If you can't play more than 6 or 7 strings, it doesn't mean that 8 or 9 is useless and stupid. ;)
It is not about playability (which is not as good as the fretboard becomes to wide), it is also harmonic facts:
a 7th low string closes the gap to the base player.
a 7string downtuned is already many times at least 1 string in the bass players range.
8 strings = you could reason with me that this is slightly usefull as it would make it less important to downtune the other strings (keep the guitar in standard tuning) while skipping in parts that usually the bass should play, but you want distorted

9 string: you are way in the bassplayers region (I guess some might even downtune that lol) and harmonic progression from the high E (if you did not downtune) to the lowest string in a scale that is not overloaded or I would not like to open my veines for when hearing it is not likely.
also you could argue special needs (higher strings, or two strings with same tuning etc.), however the people I know that could make use of such an instrument are so rare, that most of those players already own such special weapons, custom made. I cannot envision a mass produced modell for this. (you can get such beasts from basslab for example)

but hey: I am always open minded. if you buy one and post a video giving a demonstration what this beast is for (mass produced), let me know and I might make up my mind.

And I sure hope before you post such a thing, that you can make use of those strings. As I have seen several people with 7s and about 30% of the people I have seen play 7s really make use of that guitar in a reasonable way, as many do not understand how scales expand over the new string. Many just use it because they do not want to switch downtuned guitars between songs and many of those folk actually would need a 3 string powermush guitar. (No idea if they play actual powerchords as most of the time you cannot hear which chord they play anyways.)
 

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EMG makes a great product. It's not for everyone, but there's no denying it's abilities. It seems most Jemsiters are DiMarzio fan boys. Look at some of Petruccis DiMarzio ads with his fruity hair and designer shades. Now who should be banned??
nah we are most comfy with Seymore Duncans, Harry DeArmond, Lace Sensor, Lundgren, Fralin, Rhodes and others too... we just do not like EMGs. But hey it does not mean that they make a bad product, to each his own.
 

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It is not about playability (which is not as good as the fretboard becomes to wide), it is also harmonic facts:
a 7th low string closes the gap to the base player.
a 7string downtuned is already many times at least 1 string in the bass players range.
8 strings = you could reason with me that this is slightly usefull as it would make it less important to downtune the other strings (keep the guitar in standard tuning) while skipping in parts that usually the bass should play, but you want distorted

9 string: you are way in the bassplayers region (I guess some might even downtune that lol) and harmonic progression from the high E (if you did not downtune) to the lowest string in a scale that is not overloaded or I would not like to open my veines for when hearing it is not likely.
also you could argue special needs (higher strings, or two strings with same tuning etc.), however the people I know that could make use of such an instrument are so rare, that most of those players already own such special weapons, custom made. I cannot envision a mass produced modell for this. (you can get such beasts from basslab for example)

but hey: I am always open minded. if you buy one and post a video giving a demonstration what this beast is for (mass produced), let me know and I might make up my mind.

And I sure hope before you post such a thing, that you can make use of those strings. As I have seen several people with 7s and about 30% of the people I have seen play 7s really make use of that guitar in a reasonable way, as many do not understand how scales expand over the new string. Many just use it because they do not want to switch downtuned guitars between songs and many of those folk actually would need a 3 string powermush guitar. (No idea if they play actual powerchords as most of the time you cannot hear which chord they play anyways.)
Ofcourse everyone's entitled to their opinion.. I am not going to buy a 9-string guitar, all I meant is that in capable hands 9 strings could be very innovative. I'd like to see what 9-stringer would sound in the hands of.. say, Devin Townsend. As far as I'm concerned, he makes very good use of his 6 and 7 stringers and he also uses cool tunings, like open C or open B.

Tosin Abasi makes some cool stuff with his 8-stringer too. And I like meshuggah, they're cool also. I don't know if they even have a bassist in the band, since they're tuned so low. Sounds good to me anyway.

Hmm.. I think someone from sevenstring.org has a schecter hellraiser c-8 and he plays some very cool tapping stuff with it. Clean sounds and so on.

I am going to build myself a 8-stringer just to try it out. If it isn't my thing, I'll just warm my sauna with it. If I'll be able to handle it, I'll make sure I post vids here. I hope you weren't offended by the message I wrote about being able to play the 9 string guitars, as I meant nothing bad with it. You just seemed to condemn the whole idea of playing a 9 stringer.
 

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Ofcourse everyone's entitled to their opinion.. I am not going to buy a 9-string guitar, all I meant is that in capable hands 9 strings could be very innovative. I'd like to see what 9-stringer would sound in the hands of.. say, Devin Townsend. As far as I'm concerned, he makes very good use of his 6 and 7 stringers and he also uses cool tunings, like open C or open B.

Tosin Abasi makes some cool stuff with his 8-stringer too. And I like meshuggah, they're cool also. I don't know if they even have a bassist in the band, since they're tuned so low. Sounds good to me anyway.

Hmm.. I think someone from sevenstring.org has a schecter hellraiser c-8 and he plays some very cool tapping stuff with it. Clean sounds and so on.

I am going to build myself a 8-stringer just to try it out. If it isn't my thing, I'll just warm my sauna with it. If I'll be able to handle it, I'll make sure I post vids here. I hope you weren't offended by the message I wrote about being able to play the 9 string guitars, as I meant nothing bad with it. You just seemed to condemn the whole idea of playing a 9 stringer.
no worries, I was not offended.
I am totally with you. The idea of playing a 9stringer is absolutely OK to me.
I condemn the idea to have one mass produced.

As a player model (good choice on the artists) custom made or a very limited edition, of course it makes sense.
You might want to check out Basslab honestly. They make some very innovative guitars, with extended fret range, strings, open bodies from special "tuned" plastic/carbon stuff etc.
I heard a jazzplayer ones with an around 34-fret 7-string with a very weird trem that was absolutely awesome... but not really mainstream hehe. Just for guitar geeks like us...

I also encourage experimenting, sadly those "weird" guitars are most of the time to expensive to experiment a lot. Then again I bought my first seven also to experiment and ended up using it a lot. But a 5000 bucks basslab is then too much to experiment... hehe
 

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I have never heard of basslab. I'll definitely check it out.

I would guess that rondo isn't going to mass produce those 9-strings. I saw couple of em on the site, but there hasn't been one 9-stringer since that. Guess it was a trial batch to see if people buy them.. For my surprise I haven't seen any of those popping up at sevenstring.org. Maybe they aren't going to get the same popularity as eight stringers. There's quite lot of strings to play on 8 string after all, so maybe people think that the niners are a bit overkill.
 

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I always try to have one guitar around with an EMG 81 in the bridge. It sounds great distorted to hell and the sustain is great as well. It's not very flexible, but what it does it does do well. I like the SAs too, so at the moment my EMG guitar is a Jackson SL1 Soloist.
 

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I didn't like emg's too much earlier, but when I bought my m-1000, I changed my mind about them. First I was going to replace them with duncans of dimarzios, but the emg's sounded totally great on this guitar. Maybe it has something to do with the woods, I don't know.. But it really sounds good. Can't say the same on other guitars I've had. These are pups I'm definitely going to keep, but It's also going to be the only guitar with emg's I want to have. I wouldn't put them on my 2570, that's for sure.
 
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