[bammbamm]

http://www.tremol-no.com

I think this an overdue modification to an already brilliant design.
1st chance to get one, I'm all over it.
The Tremol-no is NOW available ! ! !
http://www.allparts.com/nproduct.php?stock_id=2883
Order yours NOW !
Bamm

 

[SalemB]

Deja-vu
http://www.jemsite.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?t=27092

 

[jemsite]

title edited for clarity and reopened. even though this is duplicate thread, if you want to discuss it specifically here too then knock yourselves out... glen

 

[Jammy]

saw them across at the projectguitar forum a while back. They look like a great idea. I would be a bit weary about buying one though, because if I was to block my trem I could do it for free (virtually) with a bit of wood, and that bit of wood may also improve my tone... and I doubt these would
-better shred than dead-ANDY

 

[cerealk]

it is a great little thing which I find really useful

I am still trying mine out but it really solves the problem of changing between drop D and standard tuning with the same guitar. Which I was doing in seconds between songs during band rehearsals.

It of course adds stability to standard tuning for greater riff-tastic-ness

 

[jemsite]

simon, do you notice any change in the the flutter and trem feel when the device is unlocked compared to before it was installed? ...glen

 

[cerealk]

Glen-Difficult to tell. There might be some less flutter and a different feel to the trem but it is slight.

I think I would have to take it off again and re-check the trem feel without it. I think I have got used to it being on now!

For my style of playing and whammy bar use it has made no difference.

 

[darren wilson]

I think it's a great idea for those who want the flexibility to go from full-floating trem to experimenting with alternate tunings (or even stabilizing the bridge after a broken string) on the fly. Combine it with a D-Tuna on a full-floating trem guitar and you've got a lot of options.

I can easily see companies like Fender (who now owns the Floyd Rose patents), Ibanez, Schaller or Gotoh potentially licensing this thing.

Can't stand the name, though. "Tremo-no" would have rolled off the tongue better than "Tremol-no".

 

[jemsite]

Glen-Difficult to tell. There might be some less flutter and a different feel to the trem but it is slight.

I think I would have to take it off again and re-check the trem feel without it. I think I have got used to it being on now!

For my style of playing and whammy bar use it has made no difference.

gotcha. you have this on the BMC? might not notice the diference... sort of what some trem-stabilizer users say, depending on usage but w/o screwing into the body (also w/o the double stop broken string issue fix).

has potential, as stated above it's too early to call, especially w/o pricing & availability... glen

 

[cerealk]

it is a good idea (and potentially very useful for some) and a lot of people will be interested in trying one out

 

[Rich]

Kev just told me he did redesign the claw to prevent spring walking. I'll be picking mine up out in LA and give it a good test. Promising idea for those that could use it but as Kev knows I spent the last 8 years on my Les Paul wanting nothing more than a floater, hardtails I have no use for [or alternate tunings]. The idea that you could use this to lock the bridge after breaking a string during a performance is weak, you'd be locking it out of tune, better just to stop and grab the backup of course

 

[jay ratkowski]

Yeah well erm uh... drama aside:

I've been talking to Kev about this since the beginning, but have yet to see anything beyond what's on the official website. In theory it is a very neat idea and something I'd *probably* use. However, without someone like me being able to pick one up in any way/shape/form, it means nothing. I could easily forsee an upstart company picking the idea up and marketing it along with a small number of other products. As logical as it may be, I don't really see it having an Ibanez patent. It just seems they are hesitant to take too many risks on additional options to guitars.

I guess I'm with Glen, nice idea, but talk to me when I can buy one.

 

[cerealk]

Oh wait, Cerealk is moderatly positive

I would say I was more than that. :wink:

I am giving it a proper run through over a number of months before I give a full report back to Kevan. I can also post here if you like

There are many more people who have one who are far more qualified (and talented) than me to judge its merits.

 

[Artist]

I love this at the bottom of Kev's FAQ

Tremol-No is a registered trademark of Tremol-No, LLC
Bigsby is a registered trademark of Bigsby Accessories
Fender is a registered trademark of Fender Musical Instruments, Inc.
Ibanez is a registered trademark of Hoshino-Gakki Ltd., Japan
Kahler is a registered trademark of American Precision Metalworks
Parker is a registered trademark of Parker Guitars
Steinberger is a registered trademark of Gibson Guitar Corporation.
Wilkinson is a registered trademark of Gotoh
Wonderbar is a registered trademark of Washburn International.
Paul Gilbert is just plain cool.

 

[Al M]

I think this device looks like a really good idea. Its the kinda of thing i've been looking for, for some time.

I await with great anticipation

 

[Artist]

The idea that you could use this to lock the bridge after breaking a string during a performance is weak, you'd be locking it out of tune, better just to stop and grab the backup of course

I'm not exactly in the know about this device, but wouldnt you be able to level out the trem with the bar, lock the tremo-no, and then continue?
Getting the backup would probably be easier, but if you already have a lot of guitars with you (acoustics etc) a backup may not be an option. A backup might not also be an option if your using the backup, and you have no one to restring your main guitar.

 

[dex]

I felt it would have a niche market but has some obvious limitations due to the floating bridge

bingo.
niche product that will most probably never be available installed on a guitar but rather as an after sale accesorie like the tremseter.
Very limited market as most people who want a fixed bridge will get a fixed bridge and those of us that like floating trems will like to have a fluttering floating trem.
Chalk it up to great ideas that never catch on as they are not that great and the market for them is too small.

Saying that, I will probably buy one when they become available and if they are not too expensive (less than $35)

ilia

p.s. Artist that would work but you'll need a tuner so you can lock it down just right while holding your guitar upside down, pulling on the bar and tightening screws - not that easy.

 

[cerealk]

Dex and Artist

lets try the breaking string thing at my place in a couple of weeks

Cheers

Simon

 

[dex]

Well that won't fully simulate the frustraition of a mid-gig, mid-song string breakage that will knock everything out of tune and you'll have to stand there like a pillock, holding your guitar upside down and twisting like crazy while stressing out wheter you're locking it even remotely in tune to your bandmates.

In that position I much rather go for the backup - 15 second job.

Granted if you already have the thing locked in place and break a string with no audiable effect - most impresive.
The other guitar players in the audience will be mighty puzzled.

ilia

 

[jemsite]

LOL. it obviously will only accomidate a string break if the bridge is fixed with the device and not floating (ie. like if a wood block was inserted)... glen