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Have for more than 20 years an Ibanez Jem2kDNA more or less as a case queen, hardly played, because it is somehow too bad for me. They were available at the turn of the millennium as a Steve Vai Signature in a quantity of 300. Each is swirled and therefore unique. I'm not looking to sell, but I'd just be interested to see how these are currently trading. I haven't seen any for sale in years so I'm in the dark. Merci already !
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We’ve got to be easily talking 10k. Possibly more if it’s the only one for sale at any given time!

Another 20 years and who knows ;)
 

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the crazy people on reverb and ebay be wanting 7k for 30th Jem nowadays

this would be like 20k easily in the current market

I remember seeing this guitar on ebay for $8000-9000 around 2007. I think I even saw one for 6.5k or something
 

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for it to cost almost as much as a 60s strat is ridiculous tho lmao

if DNA was so successful, and you can bet it made Steve and Ibanez richer, how come they don't come out with a reissue?

They don't because it will be their "Eugene's trick bag" when everything goes to crap and they need to boost sales dramatically. Doing swirl guitars and asking Vai for some blood is not difficult. It's not that they can't do it now, they're saving it for the future. Remember it was Ibanez who asked Vai for the blood and DNA idea, not the other way around.

Steve is getting old, eventually, the guy won't tour as often, and people have lost interest in his music in the last decades. He has his loyal fans, but still, he does not have the same fame and popularity as he did 10-20 years ago. He was never that famous, to begin with.

So, eventually, they may release more Steve Vai guitars. Ibanez has to find new artists to make signatures with like Polyphia and others who are the new generation, as these old timers like Vai, Gilbert, and Satriani, they're getting old and won't be around doing this forever. Santana recently had a heart attack due to touring so much as he is too old for it now.

You can't keep touring forever at those ages and expect to keep up. Steve already had 2 surgeries on his hands from carpal tunnel and apparently, he has had some form of arthritis for years now, which explains how his technique has reduced over the years, while his fella players like Satriani and Gilbert, don't seem to have this issue.
 

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Personally, I wouldn’t want a guitar with someone else’s blood in it. I wouldn’t want to touch it. After working in a hospital for a couple of decades, I feel that a guitar like that should go in the Hazmat bin. Bodily fluids are gross and I wouldn’t want to own one of those guitars. Same thing applies to the Kiss comic book. Just my opinion though. Nobody has to agree with me on this. It is just not for me.
 

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A quick thought about Vai’s fame since it gets brought up occasionally. Passion & Warfare is well respected among recording engineers because of how well it is produced. Guitarist usually don’t record solo albums that sound like P&W. People can be heavily influential without being a celebrity. Vai is heavily influential in the guitar community. Guitarists that play completely different music are interested in what Vai has to say about guitar/music related ideas. There are only a handful of people who really have that kind of influence. Also, Vai’s contribution to the guitar has been substantial to say the least.

As for the value of a DNA, I don’t know but my guess is a lot. I always thought it was the most desirable of the special edition JEM’s.
 

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To follow up on what FGTF said, I think that if you "weren't there" when Passion and Warfare came out, you probably don't "get" how big an influence the record (and it was a record back then;) )had on guitar as a whole. Whilst Surfing with the Alien a few years before was huge, as was FIABD, when PAW came out it was almost literally "Guitar Messiah releases Instrumental Concept Album for the Metal Masses".

Grunge (and over here, Britpop) changed everything a few years later, but for that couple of years, PAW redefined what guitar was and how it could sound.

Think of all the grunge guitarists and the nu metal guitarists and so on, and how many of them had signature models that lasted just a couple of years...

and, to go back to values. There are also probably far more 60s strats still floating around than there are JEM DNAs, and certainly more changing hands. I think it's completely a sellers market for the DNA at the moment, ESPECIALLY if you have a great swirl that matches the tastes of a buyer with cash to spend.
 

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Value for something this rare is set by the demand. Personally, I think the OP has one of the better looking swirls I have seen. Re blood in the paint, 2 reasons I would not be concerned at all; 1-its sealed under the clear coat, and 2-I seriously doubt any virus or bacteria would survive this long without oxygen or moisture, never mind the fact that Steve is still with us. If only I had kept my Jem 10..............
 

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Well, I do have a DNA myself too. I have no idea what I'd sell it for, since it'd probably be the last guitar I own :cool: (plus a player, OK). Yeah, useful feedback, I know.

AFAIK, what Rich says is gospel about Ibanez Jems' price... with a grain of salt of course, but his prices are always fair. 15K, pfeeeeew, even for that much, I would'nt sell mine (which is dark like yours WMerket btw).

As for Fowleri. Same as always !😅 our comic relief.

And I have to confess that I second what Jono says (it's the second time this week I happen to read one of his messages I relate to, I'd have never believed that possible :p). When Passion and Warfare was released, it was the Alpha and the Omega. And it's still, in my heart of hearts, my favorite "guitar" album.It's sincere and complex, naive and profound, full of paradoxes but still a lot of fun to listen to.

I only ever saw Steve that one time, with the Evo package, 26 years after PAW was released. Every moment is engraved in my memory, and I'd probably not go see him play anything else than the full PAW set. To be honest, I have over a dozen jems and universes, some swirls, anniversary models, Fuji, Sugi. Sometimes a friend asks me if I'm a huge fan of the artist. I have to confess I had to think it through the first time. I don't really listen to Vai.
But I answer yes, because I am a fan of the artist. Not specifically his music (except PAW, still flawless to me), the man, the poses, his philosophy (which I do relate to), his personality. But the artist. Maybe that's because he did impress me so, so much when I was a teenager. I still wonder why, but there's something between this man and his guitar which I find nowhere else.

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Well, I do have a DNA myself too. I have no idea what I'd sell it for, since it'd probably be the last guitar I own :cool: (plus a player, OK). Yeah, useful feedback, I know.

AFAIK, what Rich says is gospel about Ibanez Jems' price... with a grain of salt of course, but his prices are always fair. 15K, pfeeeeew, even for that much, I would'nt sell mine (which is dark like yours WMerket btw).

As for Fowleri. Same as always !😅 our comic relief.

And I have to confess that I second what Jono says (it's the second time this week I happen to read one of his messages I relate to, I'd have never believed that possible :p). When Passion and Warfare was released, it was the Alpha and the Omega. And it's still, in my heart of hearts, my favorite "guitar" album.It's sincere and complex, naive and profound, full of paradoxes but still a lot of fun to listen to.

I only ever saw Steve that one time, with the Evo package, 26 years after PAW was released. Every moment is engraved in my memory, and I'd probably not go see him play anything else than the full PAW set. To be honest, I have over a dozen jems and universes, some swirls, anniversary models, Fuji, Sugi. Sometimes a friend asks me if I'm a huge fan of the artist. I have to confess I had to think it through the first time. I don't really listen to Vai.
But I answer yes, because I am a fan of the artist. Not specifically his music (except PAW, still flawless to me), the man, the poses, his philosophy (which I do relate to), his personality. But the artist. Maybe that's because he did impress me so, so much when I was a teenager. I still wonder why, but there's something between this man and his guitar which I find nowhere else.

/endofrant
I feel the same way about my Brian May replica. I wouldn’t sell it, even at 15K. For 30K I would have to though.
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Value for something this rare is set by the demand. Personally, I think the OP has one of the better looking swirls I have seen. Re blood in the paint, 2 reasons I would not be concerned at all; 1-its sealed under the clear coat, and 2-I seriously doubt any virus or bacteria would survive this long without oxygen or moisture, never mind the fact that Steve is still with us. If only I had kept my Jem 10..............
There are bacteria that can survive extreme conditions for even hundreds of years lol theoretically speaking, all the genes in his blood have been sealed off and could be reanimated by scientists in the future, possibly cloning Vai who would finally make it mainstream
 

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Imo the DNA is the most desireable Signature guitar. Ever.
As far as guitar music goes, what shook my world was VH in 1978, PAW in 1990 (I heard a bit before Flexable) and perhaps Pornografitti (also 1990). Only latter I discovered Petrucci and Satriani.

His influence on guitar music and guitars is huge.

I don't listen much nowadays to Vai, but I´m a still a huge fan of the musician, performer and "human being".
 
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